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Re: Filtering Levels

Postby bartj » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:44 pm

Hagothsen wrote:In preliminary testing, I've found that ancestry.com and skype.com can both be accessed in strict mode, but without their CSS. I suspect they're actually blocked and its just cache HTML. The Facebook, YouTube and Skype apps work in strict mode. When I get time I'll do a more exhaustive test.


Ancestry should be working better now. Thank you for the feedback. We are still reviewing Skype on the strict policy.

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Re: Filtering Levels

Postby JamesAnderson » Sun Jul 15, 2018 3:50 pm

Have been made aware of another issue which may account for some of the persistent bandwidth problems.

There are 'VPN' apps people use to get around filtering anywhere. If they get on a network wifi that blocks what they want to use they switch to the VPN, then use that to bypass filters yet they still remain on the network that blocked the site they were trying to use. So, for example, they wanted to watch a Youtube video. Since Youtube is blocked, they whip out the VPN app on their phone and view it anyway and still use the Church network, thus rendering what we are trying to do as moot. These VPN apps were created to circumvent filtering, and my fear is it is going to be whack-a-mole to shut those apps out.

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Re: Filtering Levels

Postby Mikerowaved » Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:06 pm

JamesAnderson wrote:These VPN apps were created to circumvent filtering, and my fear is it is going to be whack-a-mole to shut those apps out.

Yep. The church is well aware of them and have already shut some of the popular ones down. The last time I tested various free VPN apps, I sent the church a pretty good list what was still working. They closed the top couple, but ignored the rest. That was with the old firewall. I haven't tried with the new one.
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Re: Filtering Levels

Postby JamesAnderson » Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:10 am

We had problems until we rewired the building with more current cabling, you need to have Cat 5 or better. Also run speed tests near the WAP points, typically those away from the router. We did all that and have not had problems, and we now get 4 bars in the RS room where we only got two or three before.

Opening Gospel Library for the first time on a Sunday often initiates content update delivery, I usually do more general updates at home but my ward has an 830am start time so that is sometimes forgotten.

I am surprised though that they have not done more to shut down the VPNs, those are usually filtered under Proxy Avoidance, but there must be another category that Zscaler calls those. One more things about the VPN apps, some have nefarious intentions and so when they find the delivery line is blocked, they find another place to run things the filters have not caught up to yet so one is often stymied in trying to fully block those


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