Why is Ninite.com Blocked?

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Why is Ninite.com Blocked?

Postby schester » Fri Aug 17, 2018 2:48 pm

Ninite is a great utility for keeping applications updated on computers. It’s a great security tool and makes setting up computers much easier.

I’ve been refreshing some computers this week and in two of our three buildings, no problems using ninite, but in the third, ninite.com is blocked.

I can’t fill out the form to report a problem; it doesn’t work, so I’m venting here!

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Re: Why is Ninite.com Blocked?

Postby lajackson » Fri Aug 17, 2018 3:47 pm

schester wrote:I’ve been refreshing some computers this week and in two of our three buildings, no problems using ninite, but in the third, ninite.com is blocked.

Has the level of security been upgraded at that third meetinghouse? Or worse, is the filter failing at the first two?

Do you pay the $1 per machine per month, or does the stake cover that expense for you?

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Re: Why is Ninite.com Blocked?

Postby russellhltn » Fri Aug 17, 2018 4:08 pm

The church uses a commercial filtering service. The church set the filtering by category.

As for Ninite, I would check to make sure that it's being used in accordance with the Terms of Service. Many times, these type of programs are free only for "home use" and would not apply to a church computer.
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Re: Why is Ninite.com Blocked?

Postby bartj » Mon Aug 20, 2018 7:25 am

I just successfully tested the filtering feedback tool in Technology Manager. Submit your feedback using this tool and your request will be reviewed. Here's a link with more information - https://www.lds.org/help/support/meetin ... k?lang=eng.

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Re: Why is Ninite.com Blocked?

Postby schester » Mon Aug 20, 2018 5:16 pm

I believe the MLS filter (filter.lds.org) passes at the other locations as we just completed audits recently, but either something changed or this site has a more restrictive policy than the others.

As I run an IT company, we subscribe to a large package of computers with Ninite Pro, so the 20-30 stake computers doesn't really cost me anything directly.

I'll be back at that building again later this week and will test reporting the issue on the block page, but when I was there on Friday, clicking the link did nothing on the block page.

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Re: Why is Ninite.com Blocked?

Postby russellhltn » Mon Aug 20, 2018 5:45 pm

schester wrote:As I run an IT company, we subscribe to a large package of computers with Ninite Pro, so the 20-30 stake computers doesn't really cost me anything directly.

I believe the policy is that all software on a church computer must be licensed to the church. Otherwise, in the event of an independent audit, it's likely to show "unlicensed" software on the computers.
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Re: Why is Ninite.com Blocked?

Postby Biggles » Mon Aug 20, 2018 11:14 pm

russellhltn wrote:
schester wrote:As I run an IT company, we subscribe to a large package of computers with Ninite Pro, so the 20-30 stake computers doesn't really cost me anything directly.

I believe the policy is that all software on a church computer must be licensed to the church. Otherwise, in the event of an independent audit, it's likely to show "unlicensed" software on the computers.

The Ninite application can include various browsers, Libre Office etc. These are recommended apps approved by the Church. Therefore wouldn’t fail an independent audit.

All the Ninite application does, is facilitate a simplified installation process, which also avoids accidentally installing unwanted items!

Which, in the past, when I’ve had to reimage 15 Clerk computers, saved a considerable amount of time and also ensures that the latest version of the applications are installed! Although to be fair Clonzilla (Recommended in the past by someone contributing to this post :D ) did considerably speed that process up!

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Re: Why is Ninite.com Blocked?

Postby russellhltn » Tue Aug 21, 2018 1:26 am

Biggles wrote:The Ninite application can include various browsers, Libre Office etc. These are recommended apps approved by the Church. Therefore wouldn’t fail an independent audit.

I'm referring to the Ninite application itself. It appears to me that to make it work, you have to installed the Ninite Agent. Since it's "chargeware", I'd imagine there must be some kind of license involved.

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There is no prohibition against purchasing third-party applications or receiving donations of software, as long as the unit adheres to the license agreements and keeps physical copies of the license certificates in the clerk’s office. In the case of donated software, the donor must provide the software license certificate and confirmation that they have either uninstalled the software from or have never installed it on other computers.

I understand that to mean that the church must possess the license. Donations are acceptable, but there must be a transfer of "ownership".
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