Ward meeting presiding authority "line of succession"

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Re: Ward meeting presiding authority "line of succession"

Postby johnshaw » Tue Jun 27, 2017 1:33 pm

I've been trying hard to write something I think is appropriate for the situation, but I can't even imagine a scenario where a priesthood leader would need to make a decision at a Young Women's camp, unless all the stake young women leaders were hit by lightning or somehow dead. In my mind this scenario envisions Women Leaders incapable of making a decision. A 'Senior' Bishop has NO Priesthood keys, nor delegated authority to 'Preside' and/or make a decision FOR THE CAMP.
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Re: Ward meeting presiding authority "line of succession"

Postby russellhltn » Tue Jun 27, 2017 1:38 pm

johnshaw wrote:I've been trying hard to write something I think is appropriate for the situation, but I can't even imagine a scenario where a priesthood leader would need to make a decision at a Young Women's camp, unless all the stake young women leaders were hit by lightning or somehow dead.

While I struggle at that as well, it could be the question is more doctrinal than organizational. That could affect if a particular activity is acceptable or not.
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Re: Ward meeting presiding authority "line of succession"

Postby rflamb » Sun Jan 07, 2018 4:18 pm

bccoop2 wrote:Related, but slightly different circumstances: Stake Girls Camp.

Who is the presiding authority when no member of the stake presidency is present? A Bishop? If so, which one? If no Bishop is present? High priest? if so, which one? If not high priest, an Elder? If so, which one?

We recently had this very circumstance, where we needed an authority to make a decision for the camp; there were no members of the stake presidency in attendance; we appealed to the longest serving bishop in the stake. Was this correct? and can you please point to instruction supporting this position?



Stake High Councilor over young women's would preside in the absence of a member of the stake presidency. Other than that the Stake should designate who presides before hand.

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Re: Ward meeting presiding authority "line of succession"

Postby aebrown » Sun Jan 07, 2018 10:03 pm

rflamb wrote:
bccoop2 wrote:Related, but slightly different circumstances: Stake Girls Camp.

Who is the presiding authority when no member of the stake presidency is present? A Bishop? If so, which one? If no Bishop is present? High priest? if so, which one? If not high priest, an Elder? If so, which one?

We recently had this very circumstance, where we needed an authority to make a decision for the camp; there were no members of the stake presidency in attendance; we appealed to the longest serving bishop in the stake. Was this correct? and can you please point to instruction supporting this position?

Stake High Councilor over young women's would preside in the absence of a member of the stake presidency. Other than that the Stake should designate who presides before hand.

I see no justification in any handbook for your declaration that the high councilor assigned to Young Women would preside. Handbook 2 is very careful to say that "The stake president assigns one of his counselors to oversee the stake Young Women organization" (HB 2, 10.10.1), but "The stake president assigns a member of the high council to work with the stake Young Women presidency" (HB 2, 10.10.2). Note that the high councilor is not overseeing, but rather working with the Young Women presidency. Section 15.3 ("Represent the Stake Presidency") is careful to maintain this same distinction.

The strongest statement I can find in this regard is in HB 2, Section 10.8.6, which says: "Camp leaders organize and conduct the camp program under the direction of the Young Women presidency." I don't see any reason for the assumption that some seem to be making that a man with no direct line of authority over the stake Young Women presidency (which describes any high councilor as well as any bishop) would have more authority than those specifically given authority to direct the camp: the stake Young Women presidency.


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