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Tax ID numbers....Does each Ward have one?

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:47 am
by rwebb-p40
I'm asking because our Cub Scouts recently made an agreement with a local restaurant to have 20% of all proceeds on a certain day donated to them. The restaurant needs a Tax ID, and I'm not sure if the Ward has one or if there is a general ID used for the church in general. Of course nobody in the Ward remembers what number was provided in the past or where the number they used could be located.

Thanks for your help on advance.

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:11 am
by Mikerowaved
Greetings, and a warm welcome to the forum.

I'd sure hate to steer you wrong, so for tax related questions, you're probably best off contacting the Church directly at...

Tax Administration
50 East North Temple Street, Room 2223
Salt Lake City, UT 84150-3620
Telephone: 1-801-240-3003 or 1-800-453-3860, extension 2-3003

Cheers,
Mike

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:50 am
by rwebb-p40
Thanks Mike, I will contact them!

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 3:20 pm
by jjemmett
Thanks for the information. I had much the same problem. The people at the Tax Administration told me that each Stake has a federal tax id number and that the wards under the stake share it. They were very helpful and found the id number for me very quickly.

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 4:11 pm
by 00dave
Thanks for the info. I just called and was told that it's now just one number for the entire church, which is 23-7300405. (also found here... http://www.ldsphilanthropies.org/planned-giving/beneficiary-designations.html)

very useful link

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 7:14 am
by kh_design
00dave wrote:Thanks for the info. I just called and was told that it's now just one number for the entire church, which is 23-7300405. (also found here... http://www.ldsphilanthropies.org/planned-giving/beneficiary-designations.html)


Great research 00dave, the link you provided in your post is very useful.

As was pointed out in this post the same EIN number is used for any Church Unit, Stake, Ward or Branch in the US.

kh_design wrote:As calebpusey stated in the quote above, "This can be obtained for the stake by contacting the Tax Administration Department at CHQ."

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By the way, the Church's EIN, Employer identification number, is now included on the official donor's tax statement. Take a look at your own official donor's tax statement and you will find the Church's EIN under the Church's headquarters address.

This is, of course and possibly could go without saying, only applicable to Church units and members in the US.


Also noted the observation of the same EIN number in this post.

Mikerowaved wrote:Interesting. The EIN printed on my year end statement from the ward and also direct from the church from the donations-in-kind folks both match the number rontilby posted above.

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:15 am
by mlh78
kh_design wrote:As was pointed out in this post the same EIN number is used for any Church Unit, Stake, Ward or Branch in the US.


Actually, in the U.S., each stake has its own EIN number; the wards are under the umbrella of the stake and use its EIN.

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 5:24 pm
by lajackson
mlh78 wrote:Actually, in the U.S., each stake has its own EIN number; the wards are under the umbrella of the stake and use its EIN.


Many years ago, when stakes employed custodians, each stake in the U.S. applied for and received an EIN number from the IRS. Any stake that had a number still has one, but there are not a lot of stakes that know what that number is any longer.

And any stake that was created since the need to pay custodians probably does not have an EIN unless they have applied for one for some other reason.

The Church, as an employer, has an EIN, and that is the number that appears on the U.S. tax statements each January.

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 10:17 pm
by mlh78
Our stake is brand new and headquarters mailed us an EIN that is different than the one mentioned above.

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 1:08 pm
by lajackson
mlh78 wrote:Our stake is brand new and headquarters mailed us an EIN that is different than the one mentioned above.


Very interesting. We are a year old, and never got an EIN. Or, at least, got told we had one.