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Two EQ Secretaries

Postby dandaman74 » Mon May 14, 2018 12:55 pm

Our new Elders Quorum president has received approval from the Stake to have two quorum secretaries. Both were sustained as EQ secretary, with neither being an "assistant secretary". However, LCR only seems to allow for one person at a time to hold the position of EQ secretary. If I designate the other as Assistant EQ Secretary, will he still have the same access in LCR as the one I designate as the EQ secretary? Is there any other way to designate both as EQ secretary. It looks like the system forces a release of the first if you try to also apply the calling to the second.

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Re: Two EQ Secretaries

Postby eblood66 » Mon May 14, 2018 2:52 pm

LCR only allows one EQ secretary and there is no way around this. This is inline with the handbook which indicates the EQ president can call 'an elder to server as elders quorum secretary'. On the other hand, it mentions 'assistant secretaries' in the same section so there can be more than one assistant secretary.

However, as far as I know an assistant secretary has the same rights in LCR as the rest of the EQ presidency.

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Re: Two EQ Secretaries

Postby russellhltn » Mon May 14, 2018 3:19 pm

dandaman74 wrote:Our new Elders Quorum president has received approval from the Stake to have two quorum secretaries.

I suspect the stake has exceeded it's authority as LCR doesn't permit this. The business rules are not created by the developers, but handed down by the Brethren.
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Re: Two EQ Secretaries

Postby dandaman74 » Sun May 20, 2018 10:49 am

Thanks for your thoughts. As long as an assistant secretary has the same rights in LCR I think we will be fine.

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Re: Two EQ Secretaries

Postby dburstedt » Sun Aug 05, 2018 7:23 pm

I know this is an older thread. But there are two things to think about here. You can create custom callings inside a presidency and they inherent the access of the group. So you can just create a second secretary in the elders Quorum.

In LCR in the OTHER tab there is an access table that shows what access to LCR each calling has. The EQ presidency all has equal access.

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Re: Two EQ Secretaries

Postby russellhltn » Sun Aug 05, 2018 7:56 pm

dburstedt wrote:You can create custom callings inside a presidency and they inherent the access of the group.

You might want to verify that, because I don't think that's true.
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Re: Two EQ Secretaries

Postby eblood66 » Sun Aug 05, 2018 8:08 pm

dburstedt wrote:You can create custom callings inside a presidency and they inherent the access of the group.

Have you actually tried that? I'm 99% sure that isn't correct. Despite how the access table is formatted, everything I've ever seen indicates that rights are granted by position and not organization and that only standard positions confer rights

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Re: Two EQ Secretaries

Postby scgallafent » Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:20 am

eblood66 wrote:
dburstedt wrote:You can create custom callings inside a presidency and they inherent the access of the group.

Have you actually tried that? I'm 99% sure that isn't correct. Despite how the access table is formatted, everything I've ever seen indicates that rights are granted by position and not organization and that only standard positions confer rights

I'm 100% sure that it isn't correct. Permission are assigned by calling and not by organization.

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Re: Two EQ Secretaries

Postby russellhltn » Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:31 am

Please keep in mind that rights do not appear instantly. It can take up to 24 hours (although 12 hours is more common). I'm not sure how long it takes for a release to be processed - it may be the same. So, if someone went from assistant clerk to 2nd quorum secretary, they will appear to have rights - for about a day.
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