I'm with you to a point. And I admit that, to me, this particular topic isn't a big deal (because I don't know the "why" behind the policy, perhaps). On other topics I might cry foul. (I've heard stories from unspecified places... but I'll just leave it at that. I don't mean to throw the topic off.)Mikerowaved wrote:As an STS, if I'm asked by my stake president to transmit a sacrament meeting talk to a shut-in, I do it. If I felt inclined, I may ask about the HB, but his decision is final. If a new stake president takes over and asks that we cease the practice, I would cease. I really don't see what the big deal is. I firmly believe this is what is meant by sustaining my leaders.
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Just, for what it's worth, I was talking to a friend who happens to be a professional video editor and he reminded me that the term "narrowcast" is a real, legitimate term in the business.
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Why, for no other reason than "The 1st Presidency" and "The Quorum of the Twelve" said not to do it.russellhltn wrote:The puzzle is the underlying "why".
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Granted... so the question is "Why do the Brethren say so?" I'm sure that if we knew just a little bit more about the "why" then most of us would enthusiastically embrace the policy. As it stands, we're trying to split hairs about it. That's too bad.
Right now it seems that most of us in this discussion are just watching from the sidelines. It's really the Bishops and Stake Presidents who are left to police what's really happening and make the decisions (...and I don't think many of us in this discussion have those callings). None of us would get far with audio recordings or audio/video webcasts if the Bishops or Stake Presidents didn't approve. So why aren't they all enthusiastically embracing the policy as it seems to be written?
Right now it seems that most of us in this discussion are just watching from the sidelines. It's really the Bishops and Stake Presidents who are left to police what's really happening and make the decisions (...and I don't think many of us in this discussion have those callings). None of us would get far with audio recordings or audio/video webcasts if the Bishops or Stake Presidents didn't approve. So why aren't they all enthusiastically embracing the policy as it seems to be written?
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That doesn't help us understand what's meant by the word "broadcast". Depending on how you define it, as long as you're not sending it to the local public access channel, you can send any meeting anywhere you want as still be obedient.Gary_Miller wrote:Why, for no other reason than "The 1st Presidency" and "The Quorum of the Twelve" said not to do it.
Understanding the "why" helps us figure out the gray areas.
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Only if one sees there being "grey areas" I don't see any "grey areas". Just black and white. Take it the way it is written and obey. It really quite simple.russellhltn wrote:Understanding the "why" helps us figure out the gray areas.
Does the lord expect you to understand the why when he gives a commandment? Or does he give a commandment and expects you to obey?
Many times on here we hear the Stake Presidents or Bishops hold the keys for their areas and one should sustain them by doing what they ask of us. Do you have to know the why before you do as your asked? Or do you just do as your asked?
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Duly noted.Gary_Miller wrote:I don't see any "grey areas". Just black and white.
Our leaders hold the keys to interpretation. If anyone has a problem with what their leaders say, they need to take it up with them directly.
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For a lot of people, one of the most beautiful concepts at play in our church goes something like "Teach them correct principles and let them govern themselves." When you have a firm understanding of principles, then you don't need to be "commanded in all things" and you can figure out the right thing to do, even if the specifics of the situation are things you've never faced before. So we've come to expect principle-based rules as a helpful way to making obedience that much easier.
I can think of some very good reasons to restrict "broadcasts" and even "narrowcasts" from the Chapel... but it's just my speculation so it doesn't do much good to "broadcast" those reasons here. Meanwhile, some of what's been said here in support of "narrowcasts" seems very reasonable to me and could be interpreted as still being in line with the handbook.
I can think of some very good reasons to restrict "broadcasts" and even "narrowcasts" from the Chapel... but it's just my speculation so it doesn't do much good to "broadcast" those reasons here. Meanwhile, some of what's been said here in support of "narrowcasts" seems very reasonable to me and could be interpreted as still being in line with the handbook.
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Agreed. As for rules-based guidance, we need to have some degree of tolerance if other's interpretation doesn't quite match our own. If the leaders are wrong, then the sin be on their head.mrrad wrote:For a lot of people, one of the most beautiful concepts at play in our church goes something like "Teach them correct principles and let them govern themselves." When you have a firm understanding of principles, then you don't need to be "commanded in all things" and you can figure out the right thing to do, even if the specifics of the situation are things you've never faced before. So we've come to expect principle-based rules as a helpful way to making obedience that much easier.
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I said it because of the way the earlier Church Handbooks of Instruction were written.Gary_Miller wrote:Interesting you would say this since the Handbook says does not single out Sacrament meetings. The handbook covers all "meetings and other events that are held in the Chapel".lajackson wrote:I do believe personally that the ordinance is the reason for the restriction on broadcasting sacrament meeting. But that is my own personal opinion, and not binding on my whatever the lawyers would say, including other priesthood leaders.
And that was a comment about sacrament meeting.
Then again, funerals should not "be broadcast on the Internet or in any other way." (HB 2, 18.6.4). There is no ordinance in a funeral service. So perhaps it is not the ordinance, but the sacredness of the occasion.
And our most sacred meetings take place in the chapel.
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From Clerksupport: Webcast Policies and Guidelines
Usage Guidelines
Handbook 2: Administering the Church, 21.2.10 states that meetings or events held in the chapel are to not be broadcast over the Internet. The exception is stake conference when approved by the stake president (see 18.3.1). Webcasts should not be used to broadcast ordinances such as baptisms or the administration of the sacrament.
Meetinghouse webcasts are intended to be used to broadcast events from one Church building to other Church buildings. Webcasting to locations other than Church buildings should be done only under unusual circumstances and when deemed appropriate by stake and area leaders.
Recording
The policy on photography and video recording in chapels does not apply to streaming events, such as stake conference. It is acceptable to stream events using the Meetinghouse Webcast Communicator or Meetinghouse Webcast software; however, stake technology specialists should ensure that events originating in the chapel are not recorded. An event that includes the participation of a General Authority should also never be recorded. Some cameras have the capability to stream video without recording, while others do not (see requirements for meetinghouse webcast cameras). All meetinghouse webcast cameras must allow for the recording feature to be turned off.
Usage Guidelines
Handbook 2: Administering the Church, 21.2.10 states that meetings or events held in the chapel are to not be broadcast over the Internet. The exception is stake conference when approved by the stake president (see 18.3.1). Webcasts should not be used to broadcast ordinances such as baptisms or the administration of the sacrament.
Meetinghouse webcasts are intended to be used to broadcast events from one Church building to other Church buildings. Webcasting to locations other than Church buildings should be done only under unusual circumstances and when deemed appropriate by stake and area leaders.
Recording
The policy on photography and video recording in chapels does not apply to streaming events, such as stake conference. It is acceptable to stream events using the Meetinghouse Webcast Communicator or Meetinghouse Webcast software; however, stake technology specialists should ensure that events originating in the chapel are not recorded. An event that includes the participation of a General Authority should also never be recorded. Some cameras have the capability to stream video without recording, while others do not (see requirements for meetinghouse webcast cameras). All meetinghouse webcast cameras must allow for the recording feature to be turned off.
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