SR Ward Clerk wrote:Someone last year asked a question spurred by a change in his ward of the titles of the Relief Society counselors. Instead of first and second, they were changed to education and homemaking, or something similar. It discussed in the thread why it was a bad idea to alter the standard 1st and 2nd counselor titles, especially when it comes to printing up the officers sustained form, and various other reasons.
I don't know if it was in MLS 3.0 or a subsequent update (if I was at my office I could check the release notes), but as standardized callings, it contains "Education Counselor" and whatever the other one is, and the titles of 1st and 2nd counselor have to be created as custom positions.
SR Ward Clerk wrote:I am assuming therefore, that this is a permanent, official administrative change being made Church-wide, and that the officers sustained form will reflect the new official titles. Am I correct in this assumption? If I am, shouldn't there have been a memo or other notification to the wards?
I guess, technically, one could say that memo went out at least as far back as 1998 when the most recent version of CHI book 2 was released (see page 197 of CHI book 2). Thus one could also take the view that MLS 3.0 finally caught up with or clarified that "memo".SR Ward Clerk wrote:shouldn't there have been a memo or other notification to the wards?
http://www.lds.org/pa/display/0,17884,4690-1,00.htmlcoloradotechie wrote:(Do we do enrichment anymore?).
FWIW, the release notes for MLS 3.0 provide the following incentive to use the standardized callings:coloradotechie wrote:I just spoke with the RS Secretary about this and she said that they are going back to 1st and 2nd counselor...
Thus, I think it is safe to assume that someone listed in MLS as "Relief Society 1st counselor" instead of the corresponding standardized MLS position will be denied access to "Church Web applications" relevant to their calling.Changes Related to Membership
- Recording Church positions (callings). When recording a calling, MLS now contains messages that encourage clerks to use standard position names and discourages the creation of custom positions. As the Church begins to provide local leaders and members access to Church applications and programs over the Web, the Church must limit access to authorized users only. For example, someone with the position of "Ward Clerk" in MLS could access a clerk Web site, but someone with the custom position of "Senior Clerk" would not be admitted to the site. Use custom positions only when no standard position fits the calling, because custom positions cannot be used to access Church Web applications.
I'm sure MLS will catch up after a while.coloradotechie wrote:So, we don't have "Home, Family, and Personal Enrichment" any more (or meetings called that), yet we have a "Relief Society Home, Family, Personal Enrichment Counselor" in MLS 3.1?
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