Restricted Access

Discussions about Internet service providers (ISPs), the Meetinghouse Firewall, wired and wireless networking, usage, management, and support of Meetinghouse Internet
Post Reply
icornwal-p40
New Member
Posts: 3
Joined: Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:04 am
Location: Pullman, WA USA

Restricted Access

#1

Post by icornwal-p40 »

Does the restricted access level of the firewall allow access to websites like gmail and hotmail?
jdlessley
Community Moderators
Posts: 9913
Joined: Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:30 am
Location: USA, TX

#2

Post by jdlessley »

icornwal wrote:Does the restricted access level of the firewall allow access to websites like gmail and hotmail?
You can see that it does not - here.
JD Lessley
Have you tried finding your answer on the ChurchofJesusChrist.org Help Center or Tech Wiki?
jdlessley
Community Moderators
Posts: 9913
Joined: Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:30 am
Location: USA, TX

#3

Post by jdlessley »

icornwal wrote:Does the restricted access level of the firewall allow access to websites like gmail and hotmail?
You can see that it does not - here.
JD Lessley
Have you tried finding your answer on the ChurchofJesusChrist.org Help Center or Tech Wiki?
User avatar
aebrown
Community Administrator
Posts: 15153
Joined: Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:48 pm
Location: Draper, Utah

#4

Post by aebrown »

jdlessley wrote:You can see that it does not - here.

I don't have an installation of LDS Restricted Access to test, but the link you supplied says:
LDS Restricted Access-Allows access only to Church-sponsored Web sites (for example, http://www.lds.org, http://www.mormon.org) and Web-mail sites

Since it explicitly says that it allows Web-mail sites, I don't see how it answers the question negatively; indeed it seems to answer it affirmatively. But either of those sites might be restricted for other reasons; the only definitive answer would come from actually trying it.
icornwal-p40
New Member
Posts: 3
Joined: Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:04 am
Location: Pullman, WA USA

#5

Post by icornwal-p40 »

That wasn't extremely clear on the web mail subject.
LDS Restricted Access—Allows access only to Church-sponsored Web sites (for example, www.lds.org, www.mormon.org) and Web-mail sites.
In the FAQ thread I found this.
jasonhyer wrote:Are there different filtering levels?Yes, there are currently two filtering policies to choose from, they are:
  • LDS Restricted
    1. Allows access only to LDS Church created web sites and few others like www.USPS.com, Google Maps, Yellow pages and other similar sites as well as allowing email, both web mail and corporate email
So I'm still confused.
russellhltn
Community Administrator
Posts: 34487
Joined: Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:53 pm
Location: U.S.

#6

Post by russellhltn »

icornwal wrote:So I'm still confused.
What's confusing? Both quotes seem to indicate that web mail is allowed. What's less clear is just plain "mail" and corporate mail since the first quote doesn't address it.

But since the question was on gmail and hotmail, I'd classify both as "web mail" which is allowed.

Now if the question is would work if you connect your laptop and used a mail client (like Outlook), then there might be an issue, but from the write-up I'd expect the web interface to work.
Have you searched the Help Center? Try doing a Google search and adding "site:churchofjesuschrist.org/help" to the search criteria.

So we can better help you, please edit your Profile to include your general location.
icornwal-p40
New Member
Posts: 3
Joined: Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:04 am
Location: Pullman, WA USA

#7

Post by icornwal-p40 »

Thanks for the responses. I was initially thinking it would only allow church-sponsored web-mail. It's all good now.
russellhltn
Community Administrator
Posts: 34487
Joined: Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:53 pm
Location: U.S.

#8

Post by russellhltn »

icornwal wrote:Thanks for the responses. I was initially thinking it would only allow church-sponsored web-mail.
OK, I see the confusion. To use programming "if" statement notation, is it "Allows access only to (Church-sponsored Web sites) and (Web-mail sites)" or is it "Allows access only to Church-sponsored (Web sites and Web-mail sites)"
Have you searched the Help Center? Try doing a Google search and adding "site:churchofjesuschrist.org/help" to the search criteria.

So we can better help you, please edit your Profile to include your general location.
User avatar
aebrown
Community Administrator
Posts: 15153
Joined: Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:48 pm
Location: Draper, Utah

#9

Post by aebrown »

RussellHltn wrote:OK, I see the confusion. To use programming "if" statement notation, is it "Allows access only to (Church-sponsored Web sites) and (Web-mail sites)" or is it "Allows access only to Church-sponsored (Web sites and Web-mail sites)"

What you say regarding the two possible readings could indeed be causing confusion with the first quoted statement from clerk.lds.org. However, the statement from the Internet FAQ on this forum has no such ambiguity. In that statement it is quite clear that the email statement has nothing to do with "Church-sponsored," since it also mentions corporate email.
russellhltn
Community Administrator
Posts: 34487
Joined: Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:53 pm
Location: U.S.

#10

Post by russellhltn »

Agreed, but once you get a certain parsing of the first quote in your mind, I can see how someone could be confused. It would appear as a conflict.
Have you searched the Help Center? Try doing a Google search and adding "site:churchofjesuschrist.org/help" to the search criteria.

So we can better help you, please edit your Profile to include your general location.
Post Reply

Return to “Meetinghouse Internet”