Lesson Video Discrepancy

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Lesson Video Discrepancy

Postby jkentner » Sat Aug 03, 2013 4:43 pm

We download the monthly content to USB thumb drives. Users can remove the drive, which is cable attached to the cart, and generally always plugged into a USB extender gorilla glued to the top of the cart (for easy access),or plug in their own.

Anyway, the point is, there seems to be a discrepancy between the zip file you download for the month for the youth content, versus what it shows in the lesson manual.

Here is an example:

Compare this lesson from July for YW:
https://www.lds.org/youth/learn/yw/ordi ... f?lang=eng
There is a video in this lesson called “Dare to Stand Alone”

Compared to:
https://www.lds.org/youth/learn/yw/ordi ... s?lang=eng
This is the landing page for the July YW lessons. At the top right hand corner there is a download button, when you click on it, there is a link that says “Videos for July: Ordinances and Covenants”. This will download a zip file with all of the videos for the July YW Lessons.

However these are the videos that are in the zip file:
2011-01-009-same-jersey-1000k-eng.mp4
2011-04-19-special-witness-elder-oaks-1000k-eng.mp4
2011-10-017-opportunities-to-do-good-1000k-eng.mp4
2012-01-002-temples-are-a-beacon-1000k-eng.mp4
2012-06-001-help-us-discover-the-gospel-1000k-eng.mp4
2012-06-002-determine-what-to-teach-1000k-eng.mp4
2012-06-003-teaching-the-gospel-in-the-saviors-way-1000k-eng.mp4
2012-06-007-invite-us-to-testify-1000k-eng.mp4
2012-06-010-share-stories-and-examples-1000k-eng.mp4
2012-06-018-prepare-to-teach-1000k-eng.mp4
2012-10-007-the-temple-always-in-our-sights-1000k-eng.mp4
2013-02-0290-faith-in-the-power-of-the-priesthood-1000k-eng.mp4
2013-03-004-using-pictures-1000k-eng.mp4
2013-03-005-teaching-each-other-1000k-eng.mp4
2013-03-009-watching-a-video-1000k-eng.mp4
2013-03-010-identifying-key-points-in-a-conference-talk-1000k-eng.mp4
2013-03-020-personalizing-gospel-doctrines-1000k-eng.mp4

Nowhere is “Dare to Stand Alone”. We are finding that there is a discrepancy every month with the zip file versus what is in the lesson. This is extremely frustrating to everyone. It doesn’t appear to be due to copyright issues either. Am I missing something?

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Re: Lesson Video Discrepancy

Postby russellhltn » Sat Aug 03, 2013 5:01 pm

jkentner wrote:It doesn’t appear to be due to copyright issues either.


Following your links, Dare to Stand Alone can be downloaded, so I'd agree that's not the problem.
Have you searched the Wiki?
Try using a Google search by adding "site:tech.lds.org/wiki" to the search criteria.

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Re: Lesson Video Discrepancy

Postby jkentner » Sat Aug 03, 2013 8:38 pm

I should clarify, that when I said nowhere to be found, I meant in the zip file. It does indeed show up under the lesson itself. Why it is not in the zip file that is supposed to contain all of the YW videos for the month of July, I do not know. This same occurence has happened for most of the months of the year.

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Re: Lesson Video Discrepancy

Postby ggllbb » Wed Aug 07, 2013 2:16 pm

Makes for more fun for us leaders.

Seriously, I usually go through them all and generally watch them all even though I rarely actually teach them. While going through them for July I discovered a wrong link on lds.org, CCome Follow Me" for one of the lessons (I believe it was "the-temple-always-in-our-sights"). I reported it using the feedback link and if was fixed within a day or two.

You might want to report this using the feedback link on lds.org (although by now it's kind of moot since July is gone).

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Re: Lesson Video Discrepancy

Postby jkentner » Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:56 am

Thanks, good to know. I will try that next time.

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Re: Lesson Video Discrepancy

Postby JonesRC » Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:38 pm

Thank you for the information on the discrepancy. We have discussed the issue internally and have addressed how to ensure that the page and downloaded zip file match. Please let us know if you find any future issues. Thank you for the feedback. It's also nice to hear how you are making the media accessible to teachers.

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Re: Lesson Video Discrepancy

Postby jkentner » Sun Sep 01, 2013 5:54 pm

I am in the process of putting September thru December of the building thumb drives. I started with November just because it downloaded quicker. There are already discrepancies. The zip download contains 5 videos. I went through all of the YW, YM, and SS for November, and there several missing:

- https://www.lds.org/youth/learn/ss/self ... y?lang=eng : "They that are wise", although this does indicate "no download available", so that is understandable.

- https://www.lds.org/youth/learn/ss/self ... s?lang=eng : "Video of the address"\

- https://www.lds.org/youth/learn/ss/self ... s?lang=eng
https://www.lds.org/youth/learn/ap/self ... k?lang=eng
: "A Work in Progress"

- https://www.lds.org/youth/learn/ap/self ... y?lang=eng : "God Gave Them Knowledge"
- https://www.lds.org/youth/learn/ap/self ... g?lang=eng : "Sharing the light of Christ"

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Re: Lesson Video Discrepancy

Postby jkentner » Sun Sep 01, 2013 6:52 pm

I am working on September, here are the discrepancies of files not in the zip:

- https://www.lds.org/youth/learn/ap/comm ... y?lang=eng : "To Look Upon" in the zip it is called "David"

- https://www.lds.org/youth/learn/ss/comm ... lang=eng#d : "God Gave Them Knowledge" in the zip is called "Daniel"

- https://www.lds.org/youth/learn/ss/comm ... e?lang=eng : "Let your light So Shine" is missing in the zip

In the zip are these files that are not links in the SS, YW, YM lessons for September:

2012-06-004-we-learn-1000k-eng.mp4
2012-06-005-we-teach-1000k-eng.mp4
2012-06-006-we-share-1000k-eng.mp4
2012-06-013-we-act-1000k-eng.mp4
2012-06-014-we-become-1000k-eng.mp4
2013-00-022-using-visual-aids-500k-eng.mp4
2013-00-023-discussing-questions-360p-eng.mp4
2013-03-007-answering-a-class-members-question-360p-eng.mp4
2013-03-008-inviting-to-act-360p-eng.mp4
2013-03-011-reviewing-what-they-learned-360p-eng.mp4
2013-03-018-asking-follow-up-questions-360p-eng.mp4

Am I totally missing something, either I am crazy, or this stuff is just not matching up?

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Re: Lesson Video Discrepancy

Postby jkentner » Sun Sep 01, 2013 7:43 pm

I am working on October, more issues while comparing the lessons to the content in the zip file:

- https://www.lds.org/youth/learn/ap/beco ... p?lang=eng : "Let us be Men" not found in the October zip

- https://www.lds.org/youth/learn/ap/beco ... l?lang=eng : "O Remember, Remember" not found in the October zip

- https://www.lds.org/youth/learn/yw/beco ... p?lang=eng : "Cheering Each other on" is labeled "Charity an example of the believers" in the zip for October

- https://www.lds.org/youth/learn/yw/beco ... e?lang=eng : "Time to Give" not found in October zip. Also if you try to download either the Medium or Large you get "The Page Cannot be found, HTTP Error 404" message

- https://www.lds.org/youth/learn/yw/beco ... e?lang=eng : "Opportunities to Do Good" not found in October zip

- https://www.lds.org/youth/learn/ss/beco ... e?lang=eng : "Inviting All to Come unto Christ", "Examples in Ministering", and "It takes all of us: The Clawson Family" are all missing from the October zip. Also if you try to download the Medium for "Examples in Ministering", you get "The Page Cannot be found, HTTP Error 404" message

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Re: Lesson Video Discrepancy

Postby jkentner » Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:18 pm

Here is the list of December discrepancies from the zip compared to the lessons:

- https://www.lds.org/youth/learn/ap/buil ... e?lang=eng : "Fulfilling your Duty to God", "Missionary Mindset", and "Priesthood Duty: Preaching the Gospel" not found in December zip

- https://www.lds.org/youth/learn/ap/buil ... e?lang=eng : "Parenting: Touching the Hearts of Our Youth" not found in December zip

- https://www.lds.org/youth/learn/ap/buil ... s?lang=eng : "Help New Members Take a Name to the Temple" is labeled "Youth serve new member"

- https://www.lds.org/youth/learn/ap/buil ... s?lang=eng : "No One Else Can Do It - Rescuing Cole", lesson says no download available, but the video doesn't play?

- https://www.lds.org/youth/learn/ap/buil ... s?lang=eng : "Help Others Come Back to Church" not found in December zip

- https://www.lds.org/youth/learn/ap/buil ... n?lang=eng : "Dayton's Legs" and "Sharing the Light of Christ" not found in December zip, but was in October's, but a teacher may not be aware of that?

- https://www.lds.org/youth/learn/yw/buil ... s?lang=eng : "Dare to stand alone" not found in December zip, but was in September's zip, but a teacher may not be aware of that?

- https://www.lds.org/youth/learn/yw/buil ... s?lang=eng : "Because I have been given much" not found in December zip

- https://www.lds.org/youth/learn/yw/buil ... e?lang=eng : "Motherhood: An Eternal Partnership with God" not found in December zip.

- https://www.lds.org/youth/learn/yw/buil ... s?lang=eng : "The Faith of Youth: The Ennis Family" not found in December zip

- https://www.lds.org/youth/learn/ss/buil ... e?lang=eng : "I'll Go where you want me to go" not found in December zip

- https://www.lds.org/youth/learn/ss/buil ... s?lang=eng : "They that are wise" says no download available


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