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nFS sources

Postby scion-p40 » Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:15 pm

Some source data is provided in the following place:

individual detail
summary
individual sources (at the bottom of summary)

In the screen that pops up, the data is just useless. I picked a random Colonial American ancestor to see what her sourcess are. First, the screen was blank for quite awhile. When data appeared, there was no way to search it. I copied and tried to paste to Word, but it froze. Multiple attempts did not work. However, pasting to Excel yielded in excess of 2,000 lines of data, each source being one line.

Aside from the popping up window after window (really irritating!!!), this isn't searchable without exporting the data. Why? What is the point in setting it up like this?

Also, nFS seems to vacilate between the term "contributor" and the term "source". To genealogists, these are two separate things. A contributor would be someone posting to AF or submitting to the temple/IGI. A source would be a specific civil, religious record, or other record, such as a christening or ship's manifest that specifically identifies a person at a particular time and place. This is another issue of misunderstanding the end user.

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Searching on a page

Postby garysturn » Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:59 pm

If you have IE7 you can search using Google on the current page, have you tried that option for searching.

I would like to see a link to the sources next to each event rather than in a big list. I would also like to have the ability to rank sources so we can have the real sources listed first.
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Postby scion-p40 » Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:06 pm

No, this screen opens in a separate window that lacks all of the normal options at the top of the screen.

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IE7 Options

Postby garysturn » Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:11 pm

If you go into Tools and select Internet Options (under Tabs on the General page click settings) you can force popups to open in a new tab, then you have those search options available. I like the way nFS operates in IE7 using this option, it causes each pop up to be displayed in full screen tabs so you don't have to do so much scrolling as well.
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Postby scion-p40 » Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:21 pm

Thanks for the additional workaround. We shouldn't have to create workarounds to use the software, though.

I despise tabs for the same reason that I dislike the constant new windows popping up. Comparing data for differing people by having a bunch of different screens open is ineffective. Moving back and forth in nFS and trying to figure out which new window goes with which person is absurd.

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Postby jbh001 » Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:06 pm

One would hope that these things would have been worked out in the beta tests, but sometimes the best feedback comes after it is released to the public. When nFS finally reaches version 1.0 (technically that means we are still using a beta product) I trust that many of these glitches and awkward designs (that must have seemed like a good idea or necessary at the time) will have been fixed and improved. Obviously some of these fixes and improvements may have to be pushed back to nFS version 2.0

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Postby JamesAnderson » Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:20 pm

Some of the notes in the system already as placed there by the data administrators has proven very useful.

I'm working through an issue for another consultant who I had in as his helper last night, the name is not combined with any other record nor are there duplicates, but we found temple work partially done on the name via an extraction record. We even found the batch number in the notes so we knew it was extracted. We're trying to find out when the temple work was all finished, or if some is in reality still pending, so his records will be complete about the individual.

However the problem is everyone thinks it was a member (patron) submitted name, the C- in the batch number says otherwise, it was extracted from microfilm. I'm running the entire issue up another flagpole or two, so beyond how it relates to the discussion of notes and sources that's as far as the problem discussion goes here in this thread.

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Postby scion-p40 » Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:29 pm

Agreed that a line or two of source info may be useable. It is folks with thousands of lines of sources where the format is an issue.

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Postby JamesAnderson » Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:38 pm

You're probably right on the formatting.

Looks like they are using a format that makes everything look like it is one sentence, rather than using delimiters to put each part of the source on a single line, that would actually make the data in the sources easier to read and find particular things in there.

Most discussions on PAF sources for example often show an identified best practice where you do exactly that, place each element of the source citation on one line, or if part of the source citation is a couple lines long, start a new line for the next element, and so forth. It's just common sense.

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Source Images vs Source Citations

Postby garysturn » Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:51 pm

Maybe we need another designation for a source image when we are allowed to link to them in the folders. These old source citations carried over from AF PRF IGI Extraction were good for their day, but when we start adding linked source images I hope they are not combined in with all these old source citations. In the Life Browser it called them evidences rather than sources.
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