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Postby icornwal-p40 » Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:07 am

Does the restricted access level of the firewall allow access to websites like gmail and hotmail?

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Postby jdlessley » Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:33 am

icornwal wrote:Does the restricted access level of the firewall allow access to websites like gmail and hotmail?
You can see that it does not - here.
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Have you tried finding your answer on the LDS.org Help Center page or the LDSTech wiki?

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Postby jdlessley » Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:43 am

icornwal wrote:Does the restricted access level of the firewall allow access to websites like gmail and hotmail?
You can see that it does not - here.
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Have you tried finding your answer on the LDS.org Help Center page or the LDSTech wiki?

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Postby aebrown » Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:55 am

jdlessley wrote:You can see that it does not - here.


I don't have an installation of LDS Restricted Access to test, but the link you supplied says:

LDS Restricted Access-Allows access only to Church-sponsored Web sites (for example, http://www.lds.org, http://www.mormon.org) and Web-mail sites


Since it explicitly says that it allows Web-mail sites, I don't see how it answers the question negatively; indeed it seems to answer it affirmatively. But either of those sites might be restricted for other reasons; the only definitive answer would come from actually trying it.

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Postby icornwal-p40 » Tue Sep 30, 2008 12:00 pm

That wasn't extremely clear on the web mail subject.

LDS Restricted Access—Allows access only to Church-sponsored Web sites (for example, www.lds.org, www.mormon.org) and Web-mail sites.
In the FAQ thread I found this.

jasonhyer wrote:Are there different filtering levels?Yes, there are currently two filtering policies to choose from, they are:
  • LDS Restricted
    1. Allows access only to LDS Church created web sites and few others like www.USPS.com, Google Maps, Yellow pages and other similar sites as well as allowing email, both web mail and corporate email


So I'm still confused.

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Postby russellhltn » Tue Sep 30, 2008 12:47 pm

icornwal wrote:So I'm still confused.


What's confusing? Both quotes seem to indicate that web mail is allowed. What's less clear is just plain "mail" and corporate mail since the first quote doesn't address it.

But since the question was on gmail and hotmail, I'd classify both as "web mail" which is allowed.

Now if the question is would work if you connect your laptop and used a mail client (like Outlook), then there might be an issue, but from the write-up I'd expect the web interface to work.
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Postby icornwal-p40 » Tue Sep 30, 2008 12:57 pm

Thanks for the responses. I was initially thinking it would only allow church-sponsored web-mail. It's all good now.

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Postby russellhltn » Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:53 pm

icornwal wrote:Thanks for the responses. I was initially thinking it would only allow church-sponsored web-mail.


OK, I see the confusion. To use programming "if" statement notation, is it "Allows access only to (Church-sponsored Web sites) and (Web-mail sites)" or is it "Allows access only to Church-sponsored (Web sites and Web-mail sites)"
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Postby aebrown » Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:06 pm

RussellHltn wrote:OK, I see the confusion. To use programming "if" statement notation, is it "Allows access only to (Church-sponsored Web sites) and (Web-mail sites)" or is it "Allows access only to Church-sponsored (Web sites and Web-mail sites)"


What you say regarding the two possible readings could indeed be causing confusion with the first quoted statement from clerk.lds.org. However, the statement from the Internet FAQ on this forum has no such ambiguity. In that statement it is quite clear that the email statement has nothing to do with "Church-sponsored," since it also mentions corporate email.

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Postby russellhltn » Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:46 pm

Agreed, but once you get a certain parsing of the first quote in your mind, I can see how someone could be confused. It would appear as a conflict.
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