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Re: Church filter test site showing incorrect info

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 10:25 am
by Gary_Miller
stephen500 wrote:So I made the 30 mile round trip to the chapel to test the firewall with global services.
Gee, that's a normal trip to town and back no big deal.

Re: Church filter test site showing incorrect info

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 10:54 am
by Biggles
But for us, in the UK, that probably equates to 3 times the cost of fuel and probably twice the amount of travelling time!

Re: Church filter test site showing incorrect info

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 12:00 pm
by Gary_Miller
I'm sure you would be correct on the fuel cost and travel time.

Re: Church filter test site showing incorrect info

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 1:26 pm
by russellhltn
stephen500 wrote:There is no message that the church policy is filtering out these web sites.
However the firewall appears to work.
So the filter check above gives incorrect infomation in the UK.
Is it possible to have this fixed, so more un needed journeys are not made!
What happens if you look up your firewall in tm.lds.org? I'm wondering if it's not functioning at some level even if it is blocking the expected sites.

Re: Church filter test site showing incorrect info

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 1:55 pm
by stephen500
According to global services the firewall is working and when I try to access You tube and gambling.com. But the actual filter site (url)to test on displays no connnection or incorrectly states church computer not protected, when it is???

Re: Church filter test site showing incorrect info

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 3:03 pm
by russellhltn
There are two types of filtering: by domain and by content. I don't know which one the filter test is testing. I don't see anything that would set off a content filter. But my point is that there may still be a problem. The failure modes are not "all or nothing". That's why I asked about tm.lds.org. You can look that up from home to see if that part of the system is happy with the firewall.

Re: Church filter test site showing incorrect info

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 9:29 pm
by stephen500
For fuel costs my American friends would be astounded to note that gas costs over nine dollars a ga gallon here in the UK.

Re: Church filter test site showing incorrect info

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:25 pm
by russellhltn
Original post which was accidently deleted:
stephen500 wrote:I asked our clerks to run a filter test using
http://filtercheck.ldschurch.org/checkpage.html
Which they did and then reported that the message was given that the computer was not protected by the church firewall.
So I made the 30 mile round trip to the chapel to test the firewall with global services.
It was found that the firewall was working when we attempted to test
http://www.youtube.com
http://www.gambling.com
It shows as "session timeout"
There is no message that the church policy is filtering out these web sites.
However the firewall appears to work.
So the filter check above gives incorrect infomation in the UK.
Is it possible to have this fixed, so more un needed journeys are not made!
Stephen Sinclair, STS, Chester stake (England)

Re: Church filter test site showing incorrect info

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:41 pm
by JamesAnderson
Looks like Russell wanted to put in a message but only got the quoted part not anything he may have desired to say.

I use that filter check URL all the time to test my own filter (K9) to be sure it's working properly, I just went in and set up a custom block. I had an older one but thanks to this thread I've got the new one now.

By the way, the last few weeks I've been working on things in FHCs and it seems like every so often the filter fails to work, I go to billiongraves.com to do transcription and to find and add cemeteries, and if you are not logged in, there is an introductory video hosted on Youtube shown. If the filtering is not working, I see the thumbnail for the Youtube video, if it's filtered, I see the blocked message that should show when you go to, even inadvertently, a blocked site.

This happens less than once a week, but has been cropping up seemingly randomly as well. We do nothing either way and the next time I'm in there where I end up on BillionGraves.com, the Youtube thumbnail shows blocked like it should be. There is a separate thread about that issue elsewhere on this forum. (If desired a moderator may move this post there).

Re: Church filter test site showing incorrect info

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 3:05 pm
by russellhltn
JamesAnderson wrote:Looks like Russell wanted to put in a message but only got the quoted part not anything he may have desired to say.
Well, great. I went to kill my bad post and killed the OP. I'm going to have to take a break before I try to fix that.
stephen500 wrote:I asked our clerks to run a filter test using
http://filtercheck.ldschurch.org/checkpage.html
Maybe my Google-fu is bad, but I can't find reference to that site anywhere. What I do find is
http://filter.lds.org That does give me a "unable to connect" message when I try that at the stake.

stephen500 wrote:It was found that the firewall was working when we attempted to test
http://www.youtube.com
http://www.gambling.com
It shows as "session timeout"
There is no message that the church policy is filtering out these web sites.
However the firewall appears to work.
When I first tried it, I got a message about it being filtered by church policy. But when I tried it just now, I get "session timeout" trying to go to 216.49.178.206. So it appears the block page is flaky.