WiFi Password

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aclawson wrote:No large organization anywhere in the world allows public access to the same network where their administrative computers reside...

The 'professional' response to this would be to put the Clerk computers and wireless access network into two (2) different vLANs. You could restrict (or block) access between the two vLANs.

This would slightly 'complicate' the 881w config, but with good documentation... it wouldn't be to bad.

Anyone try this yet?

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john84601 wrote:The 'professional' response to this would be to put the Clerk computers and wireless access network into two (2) different vLANs. You could restrict (or block) access between the two vLANs.

This would slightly 'complicate' the 881w config, but with good documentation... it wouldn't be to bad.

Anyone try this yet?

JW
Unfortunately, the internal settings of the Cisco 881W's are not accessible at our end. They can only be configured remotely by the staff at church headquarters.
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Mikerowaved wrote:Unfortunately, the internal settings of the Cisco 881W's are not accessible at our end. They can only be configured remotely by the staff at church headquarters.
That is right, but we can ask to switch off Wifi and add a local AP configured as we need.
Here in Italy we have no such a problem at the moment (few members, less IT culture, eccetera), so I'm very interested to what will happen soon!
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aclawson wrote:No large organization anywhere in the world allows public access to the same network where their administrative computers reside

I think this is changing with the 'Consumerization of IT' movement, Bring Your Own Device (BYOD) is impacting many networks and public access (think smartphone or tablet) to the network is pretty common now days. Just a quick comment, that this isn't as definitive, in my experience, as the case was stated here.
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I noticed on Facebook a conversation that seems to be ongoing is the use of LDS password in parking lots of meetinghouses if one is traveling and can't get conncection. I am troubled by this. The problem seems to be the "universal password" is out to almost everyone...maybe even people who are not LDS. I don't know. I direct the FHC in our ward and have kept the password to myself and use it discretely on patron laptops and then delete it when they are done with their session. My husband is the ward clerk and is connected in his office by the church wifi...seems like the password maybe shouldn't be "universal" but should be unique to each meetinghouse. Just my thoughts.
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I would think it would be easier and simpler to set up an area in the FHC for patron laptops, with a switch and cables, so patrons may connect their laptops to the switch. That doesn't work as well for patron tablets and smartphones, but most laptop have Ethernet jacks.
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debh wrote:I noticed on Facebook a conversation that seems to be ongoing is the use of LDS password in parking lots of meetinghouses if one is traveling and can't get conncection. I am troubled by this.
I don't have an issue with someone temporarily using the WiFi connection, as long as they aren't trying to DL a large file or stream a video on Sunday morning. The web filters will keep them from going too far astray. It would be nice to think we can help an occasional lost traveler find their way. :)
debh wrote:I direct the FHC in our ward and have kept the password to myself and use it discretely on patron laptops and then delete it when they are done with their session. My husband is the ward clerk and is connected in his office by the church wifi...seems like the password maybe shouldn't be "universal" but should be unique to each meetinghouse.
The WiFi passwords are under the control of each stake president. It's up to them if the WiFi password is to be freely given out to all members or not. (Yes, it's a losing battle to keep it secret, but it's STILL their call. :) ) You can find out from him, or your stake technology specialist what the policy is in your stake. It's possible you are trying to be overly protective of it, while your SP doesn't mind it being given out. If there's a need, a SP can request from CHQ that buildings in their stake have a password different from the "norm", but as you've noticed, that's usually not the case.

BTW, because of the disjointed IP addressing for each building (our stake center has 3 non-contiguous IP pools), we received permission for our FHL to have their own (donated) router, with their own WiFi signal and password. This allows easier shared access to a network printer, scanner, and file server, while keeping others in the building from accessing those resources.
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Mikerowaved wrote:BTW, because of the disjointed IP addressing for each building (our stake center has 3 non-contiguous IP pools), we received permission for our FHL to have their own (donated) router, with their own WiFi signal and password. This allows easier shared access to a network printer, scanner, and file server, while keeping others in the building from accessing those resources.
It will likely block access by support to things like the printers for toner level monitoring and updates.
Have you searched the Help Center? Try doing a Google search and adding "site:churchofjesuschrist.org/help" to the search criteria.

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russellhltn wrote:It will likely block access by support to things like the printers for toner level monitoring and updates.
No worries. Since it's an "unofficial" FHL, we don't receive CHQ support for things like that anyway. :)
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I think it'd be great if the wifi were open to anyone (no password required). It would be a plus for missionarywork and for members who travel.

Then there could be a secondary network for use only by the bishoprics and stake presidency, whose password is changed anytime someone is released...
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