WI-FI Passwords

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Re: WI-FI Passwords

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CollinsMG wrote:I had an interesting experience this weekend.

When I turned on my mobile phone I saw a message stating that someone on the LDSAccess WiFi had tried to attack my phone and it dropped my access to LDSAccess.
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This is an interesting problem. It seems there ought to be a way for wifi to store a specific network address other than the SSID so you could tell it to only connect to that specific address once you have it set up. Of course, someone might still be able to spoof it.
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craiggsmith wrote:This is an interesting problem. It seems there ought to be a way for wifi to store a specific network address other than the SSID so you could tell it to only connect to that specific address once you have it set up. Of course, someone might still be able to spoof it.
I could see setting up the client to only automatically connect to specific MAC IDs and to require permission for others. Or else base the automatic on location. Either way, it would narrow the window of opportunity for the evil twin. Not impossible, but just harder. However, that's something that would have to be done on the client machine (members mobile device).

I look a look in the Google Play store and found "HotspotID - WiFi Checker". It checks to see if the WiFi is something you've ID'ed before and alerts you if it spots an evil twin. No idea how good it is. It's in the "1000" download department, so it hasn't see a lot of use. (Although his prior version was in the 10,000 bracket.) For those with an Android and concerned about WiFi security, it looks to be one of the few options you have.
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Re: WI-FI Passwords

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russellhtm, you got some great point, but I will tell you that most of the members will not want to put in the MAC ID and each WAP had their own unique MAC address. So to me the members will not want to do that, in fact, I wouldn't want to do it either because it would be way too much work and to me the only way that I can see to make this easier would be to use the manufacturer's part of the MAC address.

So we just will have to take our chances.
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harddrive wrote:but I will tell you that most of the members will not want to put in the MAC ID and each WAP had their own unique MAC address.
It would be a matter of the UI. Entering the MAC ID is too much (even if they did know what it was.) When you connect to the network, it would ask "do you want to trust this SSID, or just this AP?" If they didn't trust the SSID, users would have to repeat that for each AP that they use. Granted, that won't protect against a evil twin on-site, but it would alert the user in the situation that the OP stated where someone was canvassing the neighborhood.
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Re: WI-FI Passwords

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russellhltn wrote:
harddrive wrote:but I will tell you that most of the members will not want to put in the MAC ID and each WAP had their own unique MAC address.
It would be a matter of the UI. Entering the MAC ID is too much (even if they did know what it was.) When you connect to the network, it would ask "do you want to trust this SSID, or just this AP?" If they didn't trust the SSID, users would have to repeat that for each AP that they use. Granted, that won't protect against a evil twin on-site, but it would alert the user in the situation that the OP stated where someone was canvassing the neighborhood.
Exactly how I was envisioning it could work.
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Re: WI-FI Passwords

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I would love to know the password for Lds Access wifi and also to know how it can be changed?
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rekson4you wrote:I would love to know the password for Lds Access wifi and also to know how it can be changed?
Speak with your ward clerk or stake technology specialist.
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Re: WI-FI Passwords

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I am the technology specialist and thats why i am asking to know
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You will need to contact someone in your Ward. Probably one of the Bishopric. If they don't know it, they'll know who does. The LDSAccess password is standard throughout the Church and isn't changeable, unless the powers that be decide differently.
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rekson4you wrote:I am the technology specialist and thats why i am asking to know
I would suggest you contact GSC for the information.
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