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Last year our stake patriarch passed away. His record is not in MLS and he does not show up as a patriarch when using either MLS or the lds.org directory. But, he still shows up in CDOL and in the organization directory under clerk resources on lds.org. Is this something that is going to have to be solved through a unit data refresh or is there an easier way?

mlh78 wrote:Last year our stake patriarch passed away. His record is not in MLS and he does not show up as a patriarch when using either MLS or the lds.org directory. But, he still shows up in CDOL and in the organization directory under clerk resources on lds.org. Is this something that is going to have to be solved through a unit data refresh or is there an easier way?

I would have expected that when a new patriarch was called in your stake, the stake would have updated Stake MLS and that information would have gone to CDOL and elsewhere when the stake notified CHQ that the patriarch had been ordained. Perhaps the stake president has not yet received permission from the Quorum of the Twelve to call a new patriarch.

Have you checked to see if the stake has updated MLS?

lajackson wrote:I would have expected that when a new patriarch was called in your stake, the stake would have updated Stake MLS and that information would have gone to CDOL and elsewhere when the stake notified CHQ that the patriarch had been ordained. Perhaps the stake president has not yet received permission from the Quorum of the Twelve to call a new patriarch.

Since a stake can have more then one patriarch, I don't see how ordaining a new one is required to release the previous one.

lajackson wrote:Have you checked to see if the stake has updated MLS?

It's worth verifying, but assuming his death was properly recorded by his ward, I'd consider the failure to auto-release on death to be a bug.

Hopefully our resident CDOL guru sees this.

Some more detail: The deceased patriarch was nonfunctioning status; another active patriarch has been in place for years and is properly reflected in CDOL. It is interesting that when I click on the deceased patriarch's name in the clerk tools organization list, it brings up a partial record, but lists the unit as the deceased member unit.

mlh78 wrote:but lists the unit as the deceased member unit.

Interesting. That suggests that "deceased" is simular to a move-out. And I think there's been bugs in that area.

mlh78 wrote:Some more detail: The deceased patriarch was nonfunctioning status; another active patriarch has been in place for years and is properly reflected in CDOL. It is interesting that when I click on the deceased patriarch's name in the clerk tools organization list, it brings up a partial record, but lists the unit as the deceased member unit.

You will find that it is gone now. I have been working on a task to clean up old positions in CDOL where the member has moved. In this case dieing counts as a 'move' to the deceased member unit.

JonesRK wrote:You will find that it is gone now.

Indeed, it has. Good work.

JonesRK wrote:In this case dieing counts as a 'move' to the deceased member unit.

That must be a big unit

Aaron Z

Aczlan wrote:That must be a big unit

Aaron Z

Indeed it is. See https://new.familysearch.org for a member list.

Aczlan wrote:That must be a big unit

Aaron Z

On resurrection morning will the clerks have to move everybody out, or will they be able to contact Local Unit Support and simply have the unit renamed and reclassified?