Child of Non-member parents blessed

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Child of Non-member parents blessed

Postby barryhill » Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:42 am

Recently the child of an investigator was blessed and given a name "upon the records of the Church" in Fast/Testimony meeting. I was surprised by the action since no family members have membership in the Church. My read of the church handbook indicates that permission is needed by the non-member parent if one parent is a non-member. It also states that children of members should be blessed. This leaves me with the impression that children without either parent as a member are not given a name and blessing on the records of the Church. If so, we could have infant records scattered all over the county in non-member homes.

Should I record this blessing ??? Upon discussion, the bishop conceded he may have read the handbook incorrectly. Members of the stake presidency also participated in this blessing so I an very interested in finding out the official policy on this matter.

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Postby russellhltn » Thu Jun 09, 2011 10:25 am

Official policy is in the Handbook and the MLS manual. Your local Priesthood leadership holds the keys to interpreting the policy. If they have questions, they should refer to their leaders.

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Postby barryhill » Thu Jun 09, 2011 10:30 am

I guess to be more concise, do I, or even can I, create a record for this infant in MLS if neither parent has a record?

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Postby aebrown » Thu Jun 09, 2011 10:41 am

barryhill wrote:I guess to be more concise, do I, or even can I, create a record for this infant in MLS if neither parent has a record?


The "can I" part is easy -- yes, MLS will allow you to create a child of record when neither parent is a member. You can make the child head of household. Technically, you could even create a nonmember record for one or both of the parents, since the child is now a member of record -- or will be if you record the blessing ("A nonmember record can be created for a person who is not a member of the Church but who has family members who are members of the Church").

The "do I" part is much trickier. I think you've noted the relevant Handbook references, so it's up to the bishop and stake president to decide.
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Postby barryhill » Thu Jun 09, 2011 10:50 am

aebrown wrote:The "can I" part is easy -- yes, ...The "do I" part is much trickier. I think you've noted the relevant Handbook references, so it's up to the bishop and stake president to decide.



Thanks for a good, clear answer. I'll let the Bishop figure out the "tricky" part. At least i am a lot more clear on how to handle it if he says create the record.

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Postby russellhltn » Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:09 am

Hopefully the investigator will join. That would simplify everything.
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Postby jdlessley » Thu Jun 09, 2011 12:10 pm

There is nothing tricky in naming and blessing a non-member child with both parents as non-members. The instruction is found in Handbook 1, 16.2.4. I think the confusion or "trickiness" arrises in the understanding of the words "when either of a child's parents is not a member". This of course can be interpreted by local priesthood leaders. But I find that "either parent" would include "both parents" if both are not members. The process described in the Handbook 1 section would then be followed. The process is to make sure that a non-member parent gives permission and understands the followup actions the Church will take. When both parents are not members then both must give the permission and both must understand the actions the Church will take.
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Postby idjeeper2 » Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:30 pm

I have a similar issue now. Divorced (or never married) couple. Father is a member but not in my ward. Mother is not and has primary custody. So I have a <1 year old head of household. One of the bishopric went to visit, not realizing that this was an infant. The mother was less than enthusiastic about a stranger showing up asking to see her baby. I know people have the best intentions, but few realize the situations they create when they do stuff like this.

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Postby russellhltn » Mon Jun 13, 2011 9:16 pm

idjeeper2 wrote:I know people have the best intentions, but few realize the situations they create when they do stuff like this.


That's one way to take it. I see it as a warning to check the age, or at least verify it's an adult before making a visit.

As long as the clerk who created the record was following policy, I don't think we can fault them.
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