Membership Records and Adoption

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Membership Records and Adoption

Postby klabacka » Mon May 02, 2011 1:29 pm

  1. [font=Arial] Can a membership record reflect that a child is adopted? If so under what conditions?[/font][font=Arial][/font]
  2. [font=Arial] At what age do the wishes of the child, as to what is represented on their membership record, supersede those of the parent?[/font][font=Arial][/font]
  3. [font=Arial]At what age can a child see their membership record and learn that they are adopted?[/font]
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Postby aebrown » Mon May 02, 2011 1:48 pm

klabacka wrote:[font=Arial]1. Can a membership record reflect that a child is adopted? If so under what conditions?[/font]


No. A membership record simply indicates that a person is a child of his or her parents. As a clerk is creating membership records for children, the questions ask something like "is <Father> the biological or legal adoptive parent of <Child>?" and the same for the mother. So there is no distinction on the membership record.

klabacka wrote:2. [font=Arial]At what age do the wishes of the child, as to what is represented on their membership record, supersede those of the parent?[/font]


When a child becomes a legal adult (which I imagine varies from country to country), the child then has rights (within Church policies and the laws of the land) to make changes such as legal name. Until then, the parents are the legal guardians and would have those rights.

klabacka wrote:[font=Arial]3.[/font][font=Arial] At what age can a child see their membership record and learn that they are adopted?[/font]


Because of the previous responses, this question is somewhat irrelevant -- the adoption information is not on the record.

But in general, members don't ever see their actual membership records. They may see their Individual Ordinance Summary, which contains much of the information on the membership record. But again, parents of minor children would be responsible for making decisions in this area. Once a person becomes a legal adult, he or she has every right to see the IOS.
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Postby russellhltn » Mon May 02, 2011 4:44 pm

Alan has given a good answer as far as MLS and membership is concerned.

There is an issue of how they appear when they are handed off to FamilySearch to be included in one's genealogy. Maybe I have a short memory, but I don't know as that has a good answer. As pointed out, the membership system only keeps track of the current legal parents.
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Postby waynecooke » Sat Jun 04, 2011 10:54 pm

There is one other way that a child could tell if he is adopted. As an adoptive son, and adoptive parent and an adoptive grandparent, the other place that appears to me is where it says either "BIC" or "Date Sealed To Parents".

Just a thought.

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Postby jbh001 » Sun Jun 05, 2011 8:23 pm

Lack of "BIC" designation does not necessarily, or even usually, imply adoption. It can only definitively designate one thing: Born In the Covenant. "Date Sealed To Parents" covers all other scenarios, of which adoption is only one of many.

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Postby idjeeper2 » Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:42 pm

As I understand it, the membership record shows the "legal" parents, which in the case of an adoption, are the adoptive parents. There is no place to put another set of biological parents. I have two adopted children and I and my wife are listed as their parents. They know who the biological parents are but it's nowhere on the membership record.


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