recording baptism for member being readmitted after name removal

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recording baptism for member being readmitted after name removal

Postby dnill » Mon Jan 17, 2011 8:22 pm

Is there not a "readmitted" place to record a rebaptism when recording the baptism? A ward clerk is telling me there is not, and wanting to know if he should record the baptism as a convert baptism. Any ideas?

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Postby aebrown » Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:20 pm

dnill wrote:Is there not a "readmitted" place to record a rebaptism when recording the baptism? A ward clerk is telling me there is not, and wanting to know if he should record the baptism as a convert baptism. Any ideas?


A ward clerk does not record such baptisms directly in MLS as he would converts or children of record. Rather, the stake clerk goes to the Confidential Forms area of MLS, and fills out the "Baptism Record for Readmission" form. Follow the instructions on that form (which may include submitting additional forms) for submission.
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Postby hooson » Sat Jan 22, 2011 9:21 am

Re-baptisms and re-confirmations are not recorded locally - they are recorded by Headquarters once the necessary forms and paperwork (referred to by aebrown) are completed. Once submitted, keep an eye out in MLS in the few weeks after and you should see that a record is created.

One reason for this, I understand, is that the 'new' record is in fact connected to the member's original record that existed before name removal.
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Make sure all information on the record is complete

Postby ericwerny » Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:42 am

A suggestion. When you get a membership back from CHQ from a resubmission, check such things as address and phone etc. I always ask the member to review their record to make sure it is accurate. I print out the ISO and we review it together. Also having our "new" member actually see his/her records gives a matter of proof to them that it actually real...their back.

It is such a sweet feeling to see members have their blessing restored. Attending these baptisms are pretty special events.

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Re: recording baptism for member being readmitted after name removal

Postby jbuhl68 » Mon Jan 18, 2016 5:27 pm

A member was excommunicated 25 years ago and rebaptized 12 years later. Recently, the person has been fellowshipped and has returned to activity. His records were searched for but could not be found. There was no record of the rebaptism. Undoubtedly a clerical error occurred. The member did have a baptism certificate and two witnesses testified that they were there at the baptism. SLC was contacted asking for the membership record but none was found.
The question is: what is the process to get the membership record created listing the baptism and confirmation date, finally creating a valid membership record?

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Re: recording baptism for member being readmitted after name removal

Postby russellhltn » Mon Jan 18, 2016 5:55 pm

Since this was a excommunication, I don't think it wise to create the record on your end. Call Local Unit Support, and work with them over the phone (not though messages). There's a good chance that they'll want the bishop to call Confidential Records. That's the location that excommunicated records go - and where they come back from when the rebaptism happens. My guess is the process wasn't done right, and so they're still in Confidential Records.

In this case I wouldn't create the record unless instructed by SLC to do so.
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Re: recording baptism for member being readmitted after name removal

Postby lajackson » Mon Jan 18, 2016 9:08 pm

jbuhl68 wrote:A member was excommunicated 25 years ago and rebaptized 12 years later.

Between the excommunication and the baptism, there should have been a disciplinary council authorizing the baptism. The record of the baptism should have been sent in with the minutes of the disciplinary council, and then the membership record would have been recreated at Church headquarters and sent to the local unit. That is what should have happened.

I would recommend that the bishop and stake president find out what really happened. Confidential Records will be able to give them instructions on what needs to happen now if the proper events did not happen 12 or 13 years ago.


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