Married Name of Non-Member Wife

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Married Name of Non-Member Wife

Postby pwilcoxson » Mon Jul 31, 2017 8:55 am

I have a new member asking why LDS Tools uses his non-member wife's maiden name and not her married last name. Can the married last name of a non-member wife be entered so that that her married last name is listed in LDS Tools? If not. please provide an explanation so that I can help this new member understand. As of now he is feeling like the church only recognizes temple marriages by not allowing a non-member spouse to be listed in the ward phone directory (LDS Tools) by her legal married name.

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Re: Married Name of Non-Member Wife

Postby drepouille » Mon Jul 31, 2017 10:32 am

The clerk should be able to change her preferred name, as well as her household name in LCR.
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Re: Married Name of Non-Member Wife

Postby russellhltn » Mon Jul 31, 2017 10:35 am

pwilcoxson wrote:I have a new member asking why LDS Tools uses his non-member wife's maiden name and not her married last name.

For members, the name is pulled from their membership record. For non-member spouses, the name is pulled from the marriage record of the member. Typically the maiden name is used when recording a marriage, but this might be a good reason to record the married name.

Typically, the non-member spouse is the husband, so there isn't an issue with married/maiden name. So this is different.

You might want to look in the help section of LCR to see what it suggests.
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Re: Married Name of Non-Member Wife

Postby russellhltn » Mon Jul 31, 2017 10:37 am

drepouille wrote:The clerk should be able to change her preferred name, as well as her household name in LCR.

Unless something has changed, the preferred name only applies to members or member of record. The household name is shared with the husband.
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Re: Married Name of Non-Member Wife

Postby eblood66 » Mon Jul 31, 2017 11:35 am

russellhltn wrote:For members, the name is pulled from their membership record. For non-member spouses, the name is pulled from the marriage record of the member. Typically the maiden name is used when recording a marriage, but this might be a good reason to record the married name.

LCR specifically says that the maiden name should be entered. That makes sense since that information should eventually make it's way into Family Search where you definitely want the maiden name.

But in this situation it causes a problem since they decided to show non-member spouses in the directory and LDS Tools. They could display the household name instead of the maiden name but then they would wrong for those women who do not take their husband's name. I think the only reliable situation would be to add a preferred name for non-member spouses.

pwilcoxson wrote:As of now he is feeling like the church only recognizes temple marriages by not allowing a non-member spouse to be listed in the ward phone directory (LDS Tools) by her legal married name.

I would submit feedback to both LDS Tools (inside the app) and LCR describing the problem and the hurt feelings it is causing. But even if the decision makers agree that they should use the household name or add a preferred name it will take time for any change to occur. In the mean time I would first let the member know that this isn't about temple marriages because civil marriages between church members do not have this problem. It's probably more because the church tries to minimize information they retain about non-members because of privacy laws in many countries. In the past the maiden name was sufficient for the marriage record but because they tried to use that information in a new way, they encountered unanticipated issues that they haven't had time to fix. That isn't an official statement (I'm just another clerk and have no special connections) but it's my educated guess.

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Re: Married Name of Non-Member Wife

Postby russellhltn » Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:06 pm

In addition to the advice above, I'd call local unit support to get their input. Maybe they have a trick up their sleeve.

At minimum, they should be able to suppress the record so she doesn't show at all. But that may not make the couple any happier. (But it does show that they have more tools than are available at the local unit level.)
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