Part-member families

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Part-member families

Postby drepouille » Mon Aug 24, 2015 7:29 am

I searched property records and was able to find the names of non-LDS spouses of several less-active members in my ward. I forwarded that information to my ward clerk. He said he was not able to enter those names into MLS because he can no longer create records for non-members. I understand that, but surely there is a way to add the names of non-LDS spouses, parents, and children to a member' record. What am I missing?
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Re: Part-member families

Postby aebrown » Mon Aug 24, 2015 7:39 am

drepouille wrote:I searched property records and was able to find the names of non-LDS spouses of several less-active members in my ward. I forwarded that information to my ward clerk. He said he was not able to enter those names into MLS because he can no longer create records for non-members. I understand that, but surely there is a way to add the names of non-LDS spouses, parents, and children to a member' record. What am I missing?

There are two issues here, both of which can still be done independent of creating nonmember records.

First, information about a nonmember spouse may be added to a member's record. Indeed, that's the only way that the member will appear in MLS or LCR to be married. This also has the effect of causing the nonmember spouse to appear in the Directory.

Second, a membership record can contain references to nonmember children and parents. This is genealogical information for those direct relatives of the member. This designation of children or parents can refer to members or nonmembers; it has nothing to do with household members. It appears that your ward clerk is confused about that distinction and is trying to add them as household members, rather than simply as children and parents.

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Re: Part-member families

Postby halpotter » Sat Sep 05, 2015 6:01 pm

aebrown:

you said there is a way to add information about a nonmember spouse to a member's reccord. How do you do it? I have looked in LCR and cannot find a way to show a sister in our ward is married to a nonmember spouse.

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Re: Part-member families

Postby jdlessley » Sat Sep 05, 2015 6:23 pm

halpotter wrote:aebrown:

you said there is a way to add information about a nonmember spouse to a member's reccord. How do you do it? I have looked in LCR and cannot find a way to show a sister in our ward is married to a nonmember spouse.

He is referring to recording the marriage. That is done in MLS. This cannot be currently done in LCR. The nonmember spouse may show in the online Directory once the marriage is properly recorded.
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Re: Part-member families

Postby halpotter » Sat Sep 05, 2015 7:04 pm

Have not tried MLS, but saw a post on another tread that said you can no longer do that in MLS now that LCR is live with memberships info. Can you still do it in MLS? I will try it tomorrow to see if we can add the nonmember spouse in MLS. I have looked for info in the help center and LDSTech wiki, that is where i saw the posts about MLS.

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Re: Part-member families

Postby eblood66 » Sat Sep 05, 2015 7:43 pm

halpotter wrote:Have not tried MLS, but saw a post on another tread that said you can no longer do that in MLS now that LCR is live with memberships info.

Only some things have moved to LCR. Specifically calling and HT/VT management and record moves (in and out) have moved exclusively to LCR. A few things are available in both (mostly updating contact information). But a few membership related functions are still only available in MLS. This includes recording ordinances and blessings, creating records and recording relationships (parents, children, and spouse).

What you saw in another thread was probably something related to callings, HT/VT or record moves.

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Re: Part-member families

Postby halpotter » Sat Sep 05, 2015 7:44 pm

thank you. I will have our ward clerk go to MLS and see if he can fix it.

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Re: Part-member families

Postby russellhltn » Sat Sep 05, 2015 8:19 pm

jdlessley wrote:The nonmember spouse will show in the online Directory once the marriage is properly recorded.

I'd change that to "may". If it does not, you'd need to contact CHQ to make it happen.
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