Creating new units based on language / culture

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Creating new units based on language / culture

Postby gwclark » Sun Mar 08, 2015 3:47 pm

Our stake is planning to create a Samoan branch. I don't see alot in the helps about creaing new units based on language and culture. This would not require the creation of new boundaries for stake units nor is the request for new unit form applicable in many of the fields. I would like some guidance on how to proceed. Gary, Stake Clerk

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Re: Creating new units based on language / culture

Postby sbradshaw » Sun Mar 08, 2015 5:41 pm

I don't know much of the technical details of how a branch is created, but some experience from my mission may be helpful as you consider whether or not to proceed. One of my areas (in Arizona) had three stakes, and each stake had a Spanish branch. At a certain point two of the branches were consolidated into one bigger branch (spanning two stakes) and the third branch was dissolved completely.

I don't know if the direction came from area seventies, or just a decision by the stake presidencies, but what they told us was that foreign-language branches exist for the language, not the culture. Almost all of the members in the branch that was dissolved, and a few of the members in the branch that was combined, were able to get along well enough in English. It was difficult for many of the members, but they were told to go back and support the English wards in their areas.

What I took from that experience is that language branches are to meet the needs of those who would not be able to have their spiritual needs met in English. They are not for commonality of culture. Again, I don't know if this is general church policy, or local decision, but it made sense to me.
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Re: Creating new units based on language / culture

Postby jdlessley » Sun Mar 08, 2015 6:41 pm

See Handbook 1, 9.1.5 and 9.1.2.
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Re: Creating new units based on language / culture

Postby russellhltn » Sun Mar 08, 2015 8:55 pm

sbradshaw wrote:What I took from that experience is that language branches are to meet the needs of those who would not be able to have their spiritual needs met in English. They are not for commonality of culture.

That's my understanding as well. That's one of the complaints against language wards is that they become "culture" wards and cause members to segregate instead of integrating.
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Re: Creating new units based on language / culture

Postby FTuioti » Thu Feb 25, 2016 6:32 am

What metrics do you use to measure the spiritual needs of an individual? I've asked my Bishop and Stake presidency this question; "Is there any works in getting a Samoan Stake here in California?".
I understand both languages very well but I feel the Spirit stronger when I hear it in my native language(Samoan).
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Re: Creating new units based on language / culture

Postby davesudweeks » Thu Feb 25, 2016 11:30 am

I don't think there is anyone on the forum who can provide an answer to your question - at least not to your satisfaction. Your Bishop and Stake President are the Lord's authorized representatives in your area. They would be the ones authorized to address the spiritual needs of the members in your Stake.

This forum is full of a lot of helpful people, but none of us have the authority to answer a question regarding setting up a separate Stake based on language and/or cultural needs.

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Re: Creating new units based on language / culture

Postby davesudweeks » Thu Feb 25, 2016 11:34 am

In our local area, we have both a Spanish branch and a Hmong branch. The Stake President is the one who arranged setting them up. I have not been involved in either so cannot comment on that process.

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Re: Creating new units based on language / culture

Postby russellhltn » Thu Feb 25, 2016 11:38 am

Looking Handbook 1, I don't see any procedure for creating a language stake. Wards and branches, yes. But not stakes.
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