Change Head of Household

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Change Head of Household

Postby echatterley » Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:30 pm

How do I change the head of household from the husband to the wife? They are both members but the husband is not a Melchizedek priesthood holder. Currently the husband is listed as the head of household but will be gone from the home indefinitely because of extenuating circumstances. I have been instructed to list the wife as the head of household and the husband as a household member.

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Re: Change Head of Household

Postby eblood66 » Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:56 pm

echatterley wrote:How do I change the head of household from the husband to the wife? They are both members but the husband is not a Melchizedek priesthood holder. Currently the husband is listed as the head of household but will be gone from the home indefinitely because of extenuating circumstances. I have been instructed to list the wife as the head of household and the husband as a household member.

The only way to do that is to put the husband in his own household. MLS automatically makes the husband the head of household when both the husband and wife are in the same household. There is no way to change that.

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Re: Change Head of Household

Postby russellhltn » Sun Mar 17, 2013 11:42 pm

echatterley wrote:I have been instructed to list the wife as the head of household and the husband as a household member.


As has been noted, you may not be able to do that.

I'm not sure that moving him into his own household will work. The on-line directory has a tendency to display a female member's spouse even if there is no record in MLS. It can be suppressed by calling CHQ and some convincing that it is necessary.

If it is known that the husband will be away for 3 months or more, then you might consider moving the record to where he will be.
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Re: Change Head of Household

Postby eblood66 » Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:54 am

russellhltn wrote:As has been noted, you may not be able to do that.

I'm not sure that moving him into his own household will work. The on-line directory has a tendency to display a female member's spouse even if there is no record in MLS. It can be suppressed by calling CHQ and some convincing that it is necessary.

That's only for non-member spouses (who don't have their own membership record). That won't be a problem for a member spouse.

Still, I wouldn't recommend splitting the household like that unless the husband is actually living in a different address in the ward. It seems like it would just cause more confusion than it would solve.

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Re: Change Head of Household

Postby Gary_Miller » Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:03 pm

echatterley wrote:Currently the husband is listed as the head of household but will be gone from the home indefinitely because of extenuating circumstances.
Since the husband will be gone from the home indefinitely then his record should move with him. If he is still staying in the ward then he would have a new address and should be split off as his own household. If he is going to prison then you should follow the guidelines in the handbook on what to do with the records for prisoners. Anyway you look at it he will be his own household.

echatterley wrote: I have been instructed to list the wife as the head of household and the husband as a household member.
Once you split the husband off as his own household the wife will automatically become the new head of household.

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Re: Change Head of Household

Postby rickd47 » Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:45 pm

I have a different twist on changing H of H. I have a sister who was single and H of H. She married a non-menber. After entering the marriage information nothing changed, she still was listed as H of H. Several months later her husband was baptized. After entering this ordinance nothing changed. She is still listed and H of H and he is listed and spouse. How do I change the H of H to him and her to spouse?

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Re: Change Head of Household

Postby russellhltn » Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:22 pm

rickd47 wrote:I have a different twist on changing H of H. I have a sister who was single and H of H. She married a non-menber. After entering the marriage information nothing changed, she still was listed as H of H. Several months later her husband was baptized. After entering this ordinance nothing changed. She is still listed and H of H and he is listed and spouse. How do I change the H of H to him and her to spouse?


Ok, first of all, do you see his name when you look at the "individual records"? I've seen a few clerks get confused between the information shown on the individual records and the household.
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Re: Change Head of Household

Postby Gary_Miller » Thu Mar 28, 2013 7:39 pm

rickd47 wrote:I have a different twist on changing H of H. I have a sister who was single and H of H. She married a non-menber. After entering the marriage information nothing changed, she still was listed as H of H. Several months later her husband was baptized. After entering this ordinance nothing changed. She is still listed and H of H and he is listed and spouse. How do I change the H of H to him and her to spouse?

My guess would be that the official membership record is not linked to the spouse. The mission would have created a separate record when he was baptized, this record needs to be linked to the household. The record before he was baptized is only an administrative record and not a membership record, this record needs to be deleted.

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Re: Change Head of Household

Postby rickd47 » Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:35 pm

The husband has an official record (IOS) and he is listed as the spouse on his wife's record. When we received his records his non-member record number was removed and his new membership record replaced it. I believe that the two records are tied together. I haven't tried deleting his record or trying to separate the two by giving him a bogas address, moving her to it and then doing a change of address to get them back to normal. I cannot edit her status as HOH.

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Re: Change Head of Household

Postby russellhltn » Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:47 pm

rickd47 wrote:When we received his records his non-member record number was removed and his new membership record replaced it. I believe that the two records are tied together.


Maybe, but I wouldn't be surprised but what both are in there are causing problems. Go to the "Individual" view and see if he's listed twice. If so, see which one is the non-member and delete it.
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