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Postby lhblair » Tue Apr 08, 2008 12:57 pm

When Church Headquarters sends member's records to the units without a local address or telephone number, how do they know that the member resides in that unit's boundaries?

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Postby jbh001 » Tue Apr 08, 2008 1:57 pm

One way is when the member says they are moving to a particular locality, the prior ward sends them to that unit. For example, "I'm moving to Bartlesville, Oklahoma, and will be in the Bartlesville First Ward, but I don't have an address yet. We will give our address to the new ward's clerk after we get there."

In this example, it is a matter of trusting what the member says.

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Postby daddy-o-p40 » Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:56 pm

jbh001, that's a definte culprit.

lblair, I have also experienced where a member is part of the singles ward. They lose track of his address and leave the address blank. They they are too old for the singles ward they move them into my ward using the boundary realignment feature and presto......I have to try to find them with only their name and birtdate to go with.

See my post about how to find people. It will help you locate them.

Hope this helps!
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Postby lhblair » Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:16 pm

Enriquer, I appreciate your suggestions. I tried your post for finding people without success. The links to Free411 and ZabaSearch resulted in messages saying: "URL not found on this server."

enriquer wrote:jbh001, that's a definte culprit.

lblair, I have also experienced where a member is part of the singles ward. They lose track of his address and leave the address blank. They they are too old for the singles ward they move them into my ward using the boundary realignment feature and presto......I have to try to find them with only their name and birtdate to go with.

See my post about how to find people. It will help you locate them.

Hope this helps!

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Postby daddy-o-p40 » Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:20 pm

I have been having fits with the post text editor.

I'll see if I can fix it.

Here's the URLs:
www.zabasearch.com
www.free411.com

Hope this is helpful.
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Postby Mikerowaved » Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:42 pm

lblair wrote:The links to Free411 and ZabaSearch resulted in messages saying: "URL not found on this server."

You can just type zabasearch.com or free411.com in your browser, or for around 30 other free people search engines, you can try THIS link.

Good hunting!
So we can better help you, please edit your Profile to include your general location.

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Postby russellhltn » Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:46 pm

jbh001 wrote:For example, "I'm moving to Bartlesville, Oklahoma, and will be in the Bartlesville First Ward, but I don't have an address yet."


Or .....

The member says "I'm moving to Bartlesville, Oklahoma". The clerk looks and sees a "Bartlesville, Oklahoma" ward and sends the records there.

You might want to check the member's records and see if they have a relative living in the ward. When I got those kinds of records, I'd make an effort, but if nothing turned up, I'd send them off to "Address Unknown".

What's making it ugly is that the member may not get a traditional phone when the move into the area. That really limits the ways you can find them. I suppose you could look up the prior ward, look up the Bishop and then call him to find out what's going on.

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Postby russellhltn » Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:49 pm

enriquer wrote:I have also experienced where a member is part of the singles ward. They lose track of his address and leave the address blank. They they are too old for the singles ward they move them into my ward using the boundary realignment feature and presto......I have to try to find them with only their name and birtdate to go with.


I think the same thing will happen if the singles ward (in your example) does a traditional move but since the address info is current, they don't fill it in. They don't realize that what they have won't transfer.

Boundary realignment will preserve existing address information. Normal moves won't.

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Postby lhblair » Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:39 pm

I tried a number of people search engines without any success so I've done what you suggested.

I have written to the bishops/branch presidents of the member's previous wards and enclosed a copy of their membership records. I'm hoping that someone in the former ward is either corresponding with or knows the whereabouts of the mystery member. I haven't heard back yet so I don't know if I've had any success.

Thanks for your help.:)

RussellHltn wrote:Or .....

The member says "I'm moving to Bartlesville, Oklahoma". The clerk looks and sees a "Bartlesville, Oklahoma" ward and sends the records there.

You might want to check the member's records and see if they have a relative living in the ward. When I got those kinds of records, I'd make an effort, but if nothing turned up, I'd send them off to "Address Unknown".

What's making it ugly is that the member may not get a traditional phone when the move into the area. That really limits the ways you can find them. I suppose you could look up the prior ward, look up the Bishop and then call him to find out what's going on.

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Postby lajackson » Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:50 pm

lblair wrote:When Church Headquarters sends member's records to the units without a local address or telephone number, how do they know that the member resides in that unit's boundaries?


Another way is if the record came from the unknown records department. They probably spoke with a relative who may have told them the member lived in your unit, but they may not have known the exact address.


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