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Travel to Bank

Postby mlh78 » Sun Aug 28, 2011 5:51 pm

I am curious as to others' interpretations of HB I section 14.6.3 as it relates to traveling to the bank. Specifically, is it necessary for the Bishopric member and the other priesthood holder to travel in the same car?

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Postby aebrown » Sun Aug 28, 2011 5:54 pm

mlh78 wrote:I am curious as to others' interpretations of HB I section 14.6.3 as it relates to traveling to the bank. Specifically, is it necessary for the Bishopric member and the other priesthood holder to travel in the same car?


I've always interpreted the phrase "accompanied by" as being in the same car. As I try to think about the protections offered by this procedure, it seems that most of them would be diminished or completely eliminated if you are in separate cars.
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Postby allenjpl » Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:37 pm

That's been the interpretation in my ward. Unless you plan to count everything at the bank again, staying with each other the while time, including during the trip to the bank, is the only way that both people can confirm the bag hasn't been tampered with.

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Postby dnebeker » Tue Aug 30, 2011 4:34 pm

Our stake has recommended using separate vehicles but remaining in visual contact at all times. The idea, as explained to me, is that if someone was lying in wait to rob us one could call the police from their cell phone at a safe distance.

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Postby nbflint » Wed Aug 31, 2011 2:55 pm

We drive to the bank in separate vehicles. The deposit envelopes are security envelopes. While access to the contents of the envelope is possible, it is not undetectable. We both witness the deposit and verify that it did not get stuck in the box.


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Postby allenjpl » Wed Aug 31, 2011 3:48 pm

dnebeker wrote:Our stake has recommended using separate vehicles but remaining in visual contact at all times. The idea, as explained to me, is that if someone was lying in wait to rob us one could call the police from their cell phone at a safe distance.


How do you decide who gets to be the "bait" each week? :D Do you take turns, or flip a double-headed coin?

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Postby wrigjef » Wed Aug 31, 2011 6:35 pm

I've found that the two people going to the bank rule is not only a security and accountability thing but is really a reminder thing. There have been a few times when the Bishopric member I have been with, who was carrying the deposit, has told me that if I had not been there he would have forgotten to go to the bank and instead go home to spend the remaining Sunday hours with his family.

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Postby nbflint » Thu Sep 01, 2011 9:36 pm

allenjpl wrote:How do you decide who gets to be the "bait" each week? :D Do you take turns, or flip a double-headed coin?


Once the deposit is sealed it remains in the possession of the bishopric member. This seems correct given that only members of the Bishopric are authorized to accept tithing; why would we hangle/treat it differently after it has been recorded?


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Postby nbflint » Thu Sep 01, 2011 9:37 pm

wrigjef wrote:I've found that the two people going to the bank rule is not only a security and accountability thing but is really a reminder thing. There have been a few times when the Bishopric member I have been with, who was carrying the deposit, has told me that if I had not been there he would have forgotten to go to the bank and instead go home to spend the remaining Sunday hours with his family.


I'm usually the lead car. When I forget my bishopric member keeps following me until I look behind me and wonder why he's following me. Then I turn around and we laugh about it.


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Postby davesudweeks » Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:47 am

Our stake has authorized both methods, depending on need. Several years ago, our Fin Clerk lived close to the bank, about 15 miles South of the Ward building while most of the Bishopric lived close to the Ward Building. They would take separate cars so each could drive straight home following the deposit rather than make the clerk spend another 30 minutes driving North to pick up his vehicle to drive back South.

Now our ward doesn't cover that area so we usually go together. The rule for separate cars that they had to always be within sight so if one made it through a stoplight, they had to pull over and wait for the other to catch up.

Another method that has worked is to both drive to a good, safe place to drop one vehicle, then carpool to the bank and back, for one person to get their car and head home.


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