2014 scout fees will [not] be paid automatically

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2014 scout fees will [not] be paid automatically

Postby psnarula » Thu Sep 12, 2013 2:14 pm

See the penultimate paragraph in the attachment. Does anybody know how this is going to work? How will it affect ward budgets?

"We’re pleased to announce that in 2014, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints will pay the registration fees and unit liability insurance fees directly to the National Council. The Church of Jesus Christ unit charters and individual member registration forms will continue to be processed as normal, but registration and unit liability fees will no longer be collected or processed by the local council. This change will provide the Church, local councils, and the national office greater efficiencies in the administrative process."


TimRiker - comments below, although there has been some investigation, there do not seem to be any changes for 2014.
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Re: 2014 scout fees will [not] be paid automatically

Postby Gary_Miller » Thu Sep 12, 2013 2:24 pm

It won't effect the ward budget at all, scout registration never has.

Scouting registration has been paid from the general fund with the stake writing the check and sending it to the local council, who then sent it to National Council since around 1989. All that's changing is that CHQ will now send the funds straight to BSA National Council.

All Scouting registration no matter what type of scout unit or chartered organization goes directly to the National Council. Local Council does not get any of the registration fees.

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Re: 2014 scout fees will [not] be paid automatically

Postby allenjpl » Thu Sep 12, 2013 2:27 pm

It shouldn't affect ward or stake budgets at all. In the past, the registration fees have been taken out of a stake account that is immediately reimbursed, so there was zero affect on the stake budget. This change just moves the responsibility for cutting the check to CHQ instead of the local stake clerk's office.

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Re: 2014 scout fees will [not] be paid automatically

Postby atticusewig » Fri Sep 13, 2013 8:51 am

Could we get an official LDS employee to confirm this ?

It looks legit, but it would be nice if such a big change is coming,
for the Office of the Presiding Bishop to issue a letter about it.

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Re: 2014 scout fees will [not] be paid automatically

Postby johnshaw » Fri Sep 13, 2013 10:12 am

atticusewig wrote:Could we get an official LDS employee to confirm this ?

It looks legit, but it would be nice if such a big change is coming,
for the Office of the Presiding Bishop to issue a letter about it.


It was announced by the BSA - I'm sure we'll see it by not getting the bill anymore. I was more interested in the 60% increase in yearly dues to do 'Administrative' costs. This program is really expensive.
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Re: 2014 scout fees will [not] be paid automatically

Postby jdlessley » Fri Sep 13, 2013 10:12 am

atticusewig wrote:Could we get an official LDS employee to confirm this ?

Not likely. We do not have any special connections for an issue such as this. Your best chance of an official response is to have your stake president run it up through the priesthood chain.
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Have you tried finding your answer on the LDS.org Help Center page or the LDSTech wiki?

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Re: 2014 scout fees will [not] be paid automatically

Postby lajackson » Fri Sep 13, 2013 10:44 am

Right now, many of our units turn in their registration and then the BSA Council bills the stake. My guess is that they will just bill Church Headquarters now. Or maybe even the National BSA Office will bill and the Council will not have to worry about it.

Either way, we just won't worry about writing checks after the new year.

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Re: 2014 scout fees will [not] be paid automatically

Postby TinMan » Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:28 pm

JohnShaw wrote: I was more interested in the 60% increase in yearly dues to do 'Administrative' costs. This program is really expensive.


I wondered if the Church is doing this to have some "leverage." I can't imagine what a huge check that is to write so that every unit is included.

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Re: 2014 scout fees will [not] be paid automatically

Postby lajackson » Fri Sep 13, 2013 8:42 pm

JohnShaw wrote:This program is really expensive.

Yes, but I understand it is much more expensive in some other countries, Canada being one.

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Re: 2014 scout fees will [not] be paid automatically

Postby waynecooke » Sat Sep 14, 2013 9:38 pm

"I wondered if the Church is doing this to have some "leverage."" Perhaps so, in a number of areas.


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