How to figure YM, YW budgets

[Gary_Miller]

It hard to give a percent as every unit does things a little different. The biggest thing you have to remember is that everything except the Long Term Camps and Equipment or Supplies for such camps has to be expensed out of the local unit budget allowance. In my unit we have to ask for some help from the participants 2012s was $75 from YM and $40 from YW that was about 1/3 of the total cost per individual for camps. The remainder for the YM camp from LUBA and fundraising, for the YW it came out of LUBA.

Our current breakdown for 2013s budget by percent of estimated allowance is listed below. The percent is subject to change once the expense totals for 2012 are final. Percentages are base on a comparison of the last two years expenses and doctored a little to meet current projected needs. These are the major categories under each one I collect expenses in a sub-categories so we get a better picture of where expenses are going.

Activities 10%
Administration 10%
Curriculum 7%
Elders Quorum 1%
High Priests 1%
Library 3%
Miscellaneous 3%
Primary 15%
Relief Society 5%
Single Adults 0%
Sunday School 0%
Young Men 20%
Young Women 15%

[dannykos]

You seem to be missing YSA from that list - and that is one area where the increase in LUBA was supposed to go towards?

[johnshaw]

It hard to give a percent as every unit does things a little different. The biggest thing you have to remember is that everything except the Long Term Camps and Equipment or Supplies for such camps has to be expensed out of the local unit budget allowance. In my unit we have to ask for some help from the participants 2012s was $75 from YM and $40 from YW that was about 1/3 of the total cost per individual for camps. The remainder for the YM camp from LUBA and fundraising, for the YW it came out of LUBA.

Our current breakdown for 2013s budget by percent of estimated allowance is listed below. The percent is subject to change once the expense totals for 2012 are final. Percentages are base on a comparison of the last two years expenses and doctored a little to meet current projected needs. These are the major categories under each one I collect expenses in a sub-categories so we get a better picture of where expenses are going.

Activities 10%
Administration 10%
Curriculum 7%
Elders Quorum 1%
High Priests 1%
Library 3%
Miscellaneous 3%
Primary 15%
Relief Society 5%
Single Adults 0%
Sunday School 0%
Young Men 20%
Young Women 15%

Gary, for a guy who really does a great job of scouring the handbook related to budget items, I find the VAST difference between your Young Men and Young Women budgets surprising. It seems to not be in accordance with what the handbook wants to happen.

[johnshaw]

You seem to be missing YSA from that list - and that is one area where the increase in LUBA was supposed to go towards?

Some Wards/Stakes will do this differently depending on whether a stake or surrounding area has a YSA Branch/Ward/Stake.

[Gary_Miller]

You seem to be missing YSA from that list - and that is one area where the increase in LUBA was supposed to go towards?

We have a YSA Ward in our stake they get all the YSA budget allowance and take care of all the YSA activities. While the YSA can choose where they attend we encourage them to attend the YSA ward.

[Gary_Miller]

Gary, for a guy who really does a great job of scouring the handbook related to budget items, I find the VAST difference between your Young Men and Young Women budgets surprising. It seems to not be in accordance with what the handbook wants to happen.

Not having the exact reference if I remember correctly the Handbooks says something along the lines of activities for YM should be consistent with the level of activities for the YW, and every effort should be made to ensure budget allocations are at or near the same amount. I'll go by the church and verify later today.

While we do our best to provide equal amounts of funds it seems that no matter what happens YM always need more funds. This is due to the scouting program and the cost of a monthly camp-outs and awards, which is something the YW don't seem to do much of. There is also the cost of the annual camps the cost for YM camps cost a lot more than YW camps. We make every effort to ensure the level of activities is consistent which is hard to do since YW don't do monthly camp-outs.

I will tell you that 15% of the annual budget allowance is a great improvement. The two year (2011-2012) average expense for the YW was 9% of the LUBA where the YM was 20%. For 2013 the YW have a 3% increase in allowance where the YM have close to a 10% decrease.

[lajackson]

Our current breakdown for 2013s budget by percent of estimated allowance is listed below.

Do you use the remaining 10% as some type of emergency reserve, or perhaps to compensate if attendance were to decline during the year?

[Gary_Miller]

Do you use the remaining 10% as some type of emergency reserve, or perhaps to compensate if attendance were to decline during the year?

Both.

[russellhltn]

Our current breakdown for 2013s budget by percent of estimated allowance is listed below.

While I'm sure a point of comparison is welcome, I don't know if that breakdown is meaningful without knowing the population breakdown of the ward. For example the number of YM, YW, YSA, SA, attendance levels, etc.

I'm not saying this to encourage disclosure, but to caution others about comparing it to their ward.

[jdlessley]

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