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Ensign article citations

Postby rkirvine » Sun May 29, 2016 4:02 pm

Is there any way to find out what page numbers Ensign articles were on in the hard copy? I know in the older version of lds.org a proper bibliography citation was included with each article on the website. Where do I go now for this information?

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Re: Ensign article citations

Postby aebrown » Sun May 29, 2016 4:05 pm

rkirvine wrote:Is there any way to find out what page numbers Ensign articles were on in the hard copy? I know in the older version of lds.org a proper bibliography citation was included with each article on the website. Where do I go now for this information?

You can always download the article (using the download link located near the top of the article, just under the title and author). Choose the PDF option and then you'll see the page numbers from the actual magazine.

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Re: Ensign article citations

Postby rkirvine » Sun May 29, 2016 4:22 pm

I'm only getting an MP3 audio option for the download button.

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Re: Ensign article citations

Postby russellhltn » Sun May 29, 2016 4:25 pm

You might want to check into current practices for citations. In this electronic era, I'm not sure as page numbers are a relevant as they used to be. Perhaps a different format is a better fit for what you're looking for.
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Re: Ensign article citations

Postby aebrown » Sun May 29, 2016 8:38 pm

russellhltn wrote:You might want to check into current practices for citations. In this electronic era, I'm not sure as page numbers are a relevant as they used to be. Perhaps a different format is a better fit for what you're looking for.

One source of guidance for current practices for citing Ensign articles is recent conference talks. For example, in the talk The Healing Ointment of Forgiveness, reference #2 has the following format:

2. Russell M. Nelson, “Listen to Learn,” Ensign, May 1991, 23.

So at least the Church does still use page numbers.

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Re: Ensign article citations

Postby aebrown » Sun May 29, 2016 8:44 pm

rkirvine wrote:I'm only getting an MP3 audio option for the download button.

It would be easier to give you specific help if you shared a link to the Ensign article you are trying to cite. I've sampled a dozen articles in different issues, and every one has a PDF option.

But another option would be to go to the page for the entire issue (for example, the February 2016 issue). There you can download the entire PDF (by clicking the Download link to the right of the issue date in the gray header) or individual articles. In each case, the link in the TEXT section of the download popup will give you a PDF.

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Re: Ensign article citations

Postby rkirvine » Sun May 29, 2016 9:03 pm

Some of the articles are as old as 2000. Here is one, for example:
https://www.lds.org/ensign/2000/11/the- ... y?lang=eng

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Re: Ensign article citations

Postby russellhltn » Sun May 29, 2016 11:24 pm

aebrown wrote:So at least the Church does still use page numbers.

Given the age of the talk, it might have been retrieved via hardcopy.

I question if page numbers should be used for something retrieved electronically instead of from the hard copy. There's always a possibility the two could be different. (Perhaps a late correction.) I believe Internet citations have a different format. There's a whole category of academia that deals with citations. It might be wise to check with them.
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Re: Ensign article citations

Postby aebrown » Mon May 30, 2016 7:10 am

rkirvine wrote:Some of the articles are as old as 2000. Here is one, for example:
https://www.lds.org/ensign/2000/11/the- ... y?lang=eng

It appears that this article just missed the cutoff -- the PDF images seem to start in January 2001; prior to that, your only text options seem to be viewing articles that are not formatted as in the print version.

I found a previous discussion of this same issue on the forum from a couple of years ago, which basically reached the same conclusion.

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Re: Ensign article citations

Postby sbradshaw » Mon May 30, 2016 11:58 am

I think 2001 is when the Church started using PDFs for Church magazines.
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