How to locate "video url" on lds.org videos?

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braemar
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How to locate "video url" on lds.org videos?

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New poster here, not sure if I am posting to the right forum. Please advise, if not.

Background
lds.org videos display an icon in the upper right hand corner which, when clicked, provides the embed code for the video.

Question
Is the "video url" contained in the embed code? If so, how do you recognize and find the "video url"? I need the "video url" not the embed code.

If the "video url" is not included in the embed code, how can I locate the "video url"??

Example
Here is the web page for a particular video, "Family History for the Whole Family":
https://www.lds.org/media-library/vide ... s&lang=eng

And here is the embed code which I cut and pasted from the video: (Yes, I know, it is long and, for a novice like me, messy!!)

*******Starts Here*********
<object id="flashObj" width="480" height="270" classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shoc ... ,0"><param name="movie" value="http://c.brightcove.com/services/viewer ... d=1&isUI=1" /><param name="bgcolor" value="#FFFFFF" /><param name="flashVars" value="videoId=2549398951001&linkBaseURL=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.lds.org%2Fmedia-library%2Fvideo%2F2013-03-01-family-history-for-the-whole-family%3Fcategory%3Dfamily-history%2F02-member-experiences%26lang%3Deng&playerID=710849472001&playerKey=AQ~~,AAAApYNoccE~,xDmRWfqDlPhbhwoOkZ1F_TSoe20nAtRQ&domain=embed&dynamicStreaming=true" /><param name="base" value="http://admin.brightcove.com" /><param name="seamlesstabbing" value="false" /><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true" /><param name="swLiveConnect" value="true" /><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always" /><embed src="http://c.brightcove.com/services/viewer ... d=1&isUI=1" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" flashVars="videoId=2549398951001&linkBaseURL=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.lds.org%2Fmedia-library%2Fvideo%2F2013-03-01-family-history-for-the-whole-family%3Fcategory%3Dfamily-history%2F02-member-experiences%26lang%3Deng&playerID=710849472001&playerKey=AQ~~,AAAApYNoccE~,xDmRWfqDlPhbhwoOkZ1F_TSoe20nAtRQ&domain=embed&dynamicStreaming=true" base="http://admin.brightcove.com" name="flashObj" width="480" height="270" seamlesstabbing="false" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowFullScreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" swLiveConnect="true" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/dow ... d></object>

***** Ends Here ********

Thanks in advance
Braemar
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Re: How to locate "video url" on lds.org videos?

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braemar wrote:Is the "video url" contained in the embed code? If so, how do you recognize and find the "video url"? I need the "video url" not the embed code.

If the "video url" is not included in the embed code, how can I locate the "video url"??
The video URL is not included in the embed code, and you can't locate it. You didn't say why you want the video URL, but I'm guessing you want to download the video. For those videos that the Church wants you to be able to download, there will be a "Download" link; for others, the Church has purposely hidden the actual video from being accessed and only allows it to be played through the Brightcove player. There are copyright and other licensing restrictions on some of the videos, and so you simply can't download them.
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Re: How to locate "video url" on lds.org videos?

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Yes, what he said. It seems like the only reason you'd want the "video url" is to get past the church's download restrictions, which you shouldn't do. This is one of those behind-the-scenes things where we'll never know the details, but obviously the church doesn't want certain videos to be downloaded. The church will always err on the side of caution with regards to copyright or other media distribution issues. Somehow, with certain videos, the deal with the writer and/or actors and/or music composers, etc. doesn't include making the material available for the end-user to save a copy. In that sense, it's similar to other online streaming services like Hulu or Netflix. Those providers make deals with the studios to let customers stream shows but not for those same customers to keep copies.

I know it seems silly. You can take your chances and show a streaming video in a Sunday School lesson (with buffering issues) or you can save it to your computer and play the saved copy. What difference does it really make to the people watching it? Well, the difference is that the church doesn't have complete control over certain media, just like Netflix doesn't control what they get from Hollywood.

It's not just videos. Our Hymnbook (which was first published 29 years ago, long before apps or even the Internet) has copyright issues too. While the church can print the hymns, some of them carry extra restrictions. My favorite in the ironic one that says, "Because I have been given much I, too, must give." But that generosity is limited by publishing rights… because look what happens when you try to find that hymn in your church-provided hymns app or see it at the LDS.org website.
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Re: How to locate "video url" on lds.org videos?

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Post by halesjw »

I have a little bit different reason for wanting to understand the embed code. I would like to be able to create a link that starts a video at a certain place. I don't have any problems with the controls for copyright or "context." I just want to be able to have a way to go right to a specific point. Is there already documentation for this? Or is there a way to modify the embed code?

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