Recursive database synch?

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Recursive database synch?

Postby AdrianLP-p40 » Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:09 am

[edit]Hrmm, I didn't mean "recursive"[/edit]

I've noticed that doing send/receive from MLS gets progressively slower as the weeks/years pass by. With the original initial install it was very fast. Each week thereafter it has gotten progressively slower to send/receive changes, even when the amount of changes in a given week should be less than previous.

Does anyone know if MLS synchronizes its data with church HQ by pushing its entire DB back to church HQ?

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Postby mkmurray » Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:22 am

AdrianLP wrote:Does anyone know if MLS synchronizes its data with church HQ by pushing its entire DB back to church HQ?

I seriously doubt it. As much as you criticize the development practices of the Church, I'm surprised you think they are that inept.

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Postby AdrianLP-p40 » Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:25 am

mkmurray wrote:I seriously doubt it. As much as you criticize the development practices of the Church, I'm surprised you think they are that inept.


Its an obervation across an entire district, nothing more.

You should not make assumptions about those whose role yours is to moderate :)

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Postby mkmurray » Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:37 am

AdrianLP wrote:Its an obervation across an entire district, nothing more.

You should not make assumptions about those whose role yours is to moderate :)

Yes, agreed my comment was out of line.

I also ask you not be so assuming and negative about the development practices and technologies currently in use at the Church. There are many things you are making assumptions about that you have no clue how they are run at the Church or why the original technology was chosen. From experience, the standard set of Open Source technologies do not solve all of the world's problems. There are proprietary technologies that sometimes are the best fit.

By the way, this thread is probably not the best example of what I am talking about. Many of your posts in other threads are. One of the guidelines of the thread is to avoid argument just for the sake of argument; I'm afraid some of your comments have been borderline.

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Postby AdrianLP-p40 » Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:40 am

mkmurray wrote:One of the guidelines of the thread is to avoid argument just for the sake of argument; I'm afraid some of your comments have been borderline.


If that is how you wish to interpret it.

Its certainly not my intention.

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Postby AdrianLP-p40 » Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:43 am

mkmurray wrote:I also ask you not be so assuming and negative about the development practices and technologies currently in use at the Church.


It was meant as constructive.

And, this is *how* I talk and *am* in real life. Perhaps that alone will keep me out of heaven. I'm sure it will make for an interesting debate on pre-condemnation one day after death :)

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Postby mkmurray » Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:45 am

AdrianLP wrote:If that is how you wish to interpret it.

Its certainly not my intention.

Well, it is my responsibility to interpret. If I am misinterpreting, I apologize.

I just ask that you be cautious. I feel your points can be made in more of a constructive fashion; we'd like to promote discussion and stray away from argument.

Thank you.

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Postby AdrianLP-p40 » Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:47 am

mkmurray wrote:Well, it is my responsibility to interpret. If I am misinterpreting, I apologize.


We all have to do what we have to do.


mkmurray wrote:I just ask that you be cautious. I feel your points can be made in more of a constructive fashion;


Probably. I just personally don't know how though. I tend to be direct in all dealings, and much prefer that people do the same to me (I think its more honest, and lends itself to better and clearer communication).

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Postby AdrianLP-p40 » Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:49 am

But back to the issue at hand. I can send/receive changes. Then make one single change (say a spelling correction), then send/receive changes again, and its very slow.

And sending/receiving after the clerks count donations is getting longer and longer.

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Postby childsdj » Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:06 am

One possibility could be the anti virus program. If you are running the desktop 5.5 with Symantec as the anti virus/firewall, it could be that the virus definitions are out of date. When MLS connects to CHQ, a portion of the bandwidth is opened to allow for Symantec to get the latest virus definitions. If it is up to date, this process shuts down and the connection is then fully dedicated to MLS transmissions.

We didn't have as robust of an anti virus package a few years ago, so this may be one cause of the slowness. I would encourage anyone that is slow to have their stake technolgy specialist download the most recent virus definitions from mls.lds.org every quarter if possible and apply them to the MLS machines.


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