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MLS Training Ward/Stake

Postby wadeburt » Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:43 am

We use the training Ward and Stake (108 and 2224445 respectively) extensively to learn and train MLS in many of our units. With 4 Assistant Clerks, this is an important tool for me to be able to keep everyone up to date on the rapidly changing technologies within the Church.

The Stake Executive Secretary and I were going over some issues since 2.7 came out and have noticed that Ward 108 does not accurately reflect the way production MLS works. For one, under users, there is no choice to view or edit temple recommend. For another, the wrong options are available in membership. This occurs on 3 different laptops, as well as the Stake Computer.

Is unit 108 still a valid training unit? What can I do to get the MLS training unit software to accurately reflect production software performance again?
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Postby childsdj » Fri Dec 07, 2007 8:37 am

As for the view and edit recommend capability of the 108 test unit, you are correct. Because all worldwide units use that test unit, and the new recommend process has only been in limited rollout, it has been a conscious decision to exclude it for now. Once it is rolled out everywhere that capability will be included in 108. I'm not sure about the other issue. It should be working, I'll look into it.

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Postby wadeburt » Fri Dec 07, 2007 9:55 am

Outstanding !!!

This forum is amazing. What a GREAT way for me to get answers !!! Keep up the good work !
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Postby techgy » Sun Oct 12, 2008 5:46 pm

wadeburt wrote:We use the training Ward and Stake (108 and 2224445 respectively) extensively to learn and train MLS in many of our units. With 4 Assistant Clerks, this is an important tool for me to be able to keep everyone up to date on the rapidly changing technologies within the Church


The training database is very useful, however, I've discovered something unique about it. It doesn't simulate an actual transmission (send/receive). Apparently the information is being generated from within the program (MLS) itself.

To test this theory I disabled the Internet connection and then did a transmittal. No complaints - it just went on like nothing was wrong. I had removed my messages prior to doing the transmit, and new messages (the same ones) were back again.

The training is still effective as it give a newcomer an easy, protected environment to figure out how thing work. It would be better if it did an actual transmission.

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Postby aebrown » Sun Oct 12, 2008 6:22 pm

Techgy wrote:The training database is very useful, however, I've discovered something unique about it. It doesn't simulate an actual transmission (send/receive). Apparently the information is being generated from within the program (MLS) itself.

To test this theory I disabled the Internet connection and then did a transmittal. No complaints - it just went on like nothing was wrong. I had removed my messages prior to doing the transmit, and new messages (the same ones) were back again.

The training is still effective as it give a newcomer an easy, protected environment to figure out how thing work. It would be better if it did an actual transmission.


What are you expecting to happen during an "actual transmission" for the test data?

Since every test ward shares the unit number 108, I don't see how it would be practical for the Church to actually receive any transmission for that unit -- every test unit database will have different data.

Personally, I find it extremely useful that it only simulates a transmission. I am often doing training where I don't have an internet connection. It would be annoying if a connection were required. MLS when running with the test units explains that it will only do a simulated transmission. It just creates a couple of MLS messages. That lets you know that the Send/Receive "happened." Every time you transmit, you get the same two messages again. That is by design.

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Postby techgy » Sun Oct 12, 2008 8:02 pm

I agree. I was just making a point that there's no actual transmission.
The program is very useful from a training perspective.

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Postby techgy » Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:26 am

wadeburt wrote:We use the training Ward and Stake (108 and 2224445 respectively) extensively to learn and train MLS in many of our units. With 4 Assistant Clerks, this is an important tool for me to be able to keep everyone up to date on the rapidly changing technologies within the Church.


A number of threads have been started requesting assistance with MLS issues. For those who may not be aware of it additional information regarding training can be obtained HERE.

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Postby russellhltn » Sun Nov 23, 2008 1:46 pm

Some of those training lessons should be installed on the church computer. Depending on the model you have, you may need to plug in some speakers or a set of headphone to hear the audio. Or you can turn on a closed-captioning like option and read it.
Have you searched the Wiki?
Try using a Google search by adding "site:tech.lds.org/wiki" to the search criteria.

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Postby aebrown » Sun Nov 23, 2008 6:48 pm

RussellHltn wrote:Some of those training lessons should be installed on the church computer. Depending on the model you have, you may need to plug in some speakers or a set of headphone to hear the audio. Or you can turn on a closed-captioning like option and read it.


This is true, but unfortunately the downloadable version of the lessons has not been updated in a very long while (September 2007 for English), even though several of the online lessons have been updated since.

It is interesting to note that in the last few days the training page has been restructured. Now it has seveal of the PDF versions of the lessons immediately accessible (although why it does not include all of them is beyond me, since the files exist on lds.org and so it is just a simple link). Also, the MLS Software Manual is now included along with the other documents at the bottom of the training page.

So it's making progress, but I sure wish the download could get updated more often. I might be oversimplifying, but it seems like if a new lesson can be uploaded to lds.org, it could pretty easily be added to the download.


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