Unable to specify the correct high priests group secretary

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Unable to specify the correct high priests group secretary

Postby ataylor32 » Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:23 pm

Our ward recently got a new high priests group secretary, so I went into MLS, removed the old secretary, and started the process of adding a new one. While scrolling through the list of individuals, I noticed that he was not in the list of high priests, so I changed the list so that everybody would be shown regardless of their priesthood office. He wasn't there! His son (whose priesthood office is teacher) was there, but not him.

I went into his record, went to the "Ordinance" section, and looked under "Priesthood Ordinances". There were two (seventy and elder).

Why am I not able to add him as the new high priests group secretary?

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Postby russellhltn » Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:17 pm

ataylor32 wrote:I went into his record, went to the "Ordinance" section, and looked under "Priesthood Ordinances". There were two (seventy and elder).


Are you saying the secretary hasn't been ordained as a High Priest? If so, that's the problem. See Handbook 2: 7.3.3
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Postby ataylor32 » Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:30 pm

Thanks for the reply. When I specify that the list should show all of the males of priesthood-holding age (and not just high priests), many more people show up, including unordained individuals. As I mentioned before, his son (whose priesthood office is teacher) is in the list. It seems like if it was an absolute requirement for the high priests group secretary to be a high priest, I wouldn't even have the option to change the list to show all males of priesthood-holding age.

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Postby aebrown » Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:31 pm

RussellHltn wrote:Are you saying the secretary hasn't been ordained as a High Priest? If so, that's the problem. See Handbook 2: 7.3.3


Although the Handbook quote is certainly relevant, it has nothing to do with the inability to specify an Elder as High Priests Group Secretary. MLS will allow an Elder to be specified as the HPG secretary, as long as he is a member of the High Priests organization. I'm sure that's the problem here; add the brother as a member of the organization, then he can be specified as the HPG secretary. The son is probably listed because he is considered a prospective elder, and thus was automatically moved to the HP organization.

Whether or not you should do that is an entirely different question; the bishop and HPGL would need to discuss the Handbook and the particular situation.
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Postby jdlessley » Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:32 pm

When a high priest ordination is recorded in MLS the member will automatically be moved into the high priest group in MLS. If he is not a high priest he must be removed from the elders quorum. In the process of removing him from the elders quorum the destination organization, high priests, can be selected. Once in the high priests group his name will appear on the list.

As noted by aebrown only members of the organization will appear on the list. Any adult male member can be included in the organization under MLS programming, whether ordained or not.
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Postby ataylor32 » Wed Apr 20, 2011 10:20 pm

Ah, that makes sense. I will look into that the next time I am at the computer. Thank you very much!


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