Prospective elders appearing in Priest Quorum rolls and list

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Prospective elders appearing in Priest Quorum rolls and list

Postby jayriggity » Sun Mar 08, 2015 10:32 am

I recently printed class lists and attendance rolls for our Young Men's President. The class lists and attendance rolls for each Aaronic Priesthood quorum have what appears to be all of the male members with that priesthood -- e.g., an 88-year-old inactive member who is an ordained priest is showing up on the priest quorum rolls.

I checked a couple of these members' individual records in MLS to see their "assigned" groups, and there doesn't seem to be a problem there -- e.g., the 88-year-old lists "High Priest Group" and "Gospel Doctrine" as his assigned organizations. But they still show up on the Priest Quorum lists.

I don't think this has been a problem in the past for us, so it might be something with a recent update.

Any ideas on a solution here?

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Re: Prospective elders appearing in Priest Quorum rolls and

Postby jsmklove » Sun Mar 08, 2015 2:09 pm

Under the individual tab on the members individual record there is a place to reset the organizations try that and see if it works

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Re: Prospective elders appearing in Priest Quorum rolls and

Postby sbradshaw » Sun Mar 08, 2015 6:01 pm

Doctrinally speaking, as a priest, despite his age, his stewardship is in the priests quorum, right? So, the bishop (priests quorum president) is directly responsible for him – not the elders quorum president or high priests group leader, neither of whom can receive revelation on his behalf. If I were the bishop I'd want him to be on my stewardship list. And the office of high priest should not have anything to do with age.
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Re: Prospective elders appearing in Priest Quorum rolls and

Postby jayriggity » Sun Mar 08, 2015 6:15 pm

I'm not sure about that, but I'm pretty sure that the handbook says that all lrospective elders are to be assigned to either the high priest group or the elders quorum, and that the decision if which one is case by case. I for think a prospective elder ever belongs in the aaronic priesthood quorum.

Plus, it messes up the young mens rolls, which is what I'm trying to fix.

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Re: Prospective elders appearing in Priest Quorum rolls and

Postby eblood66 » Sun Mar 08, 2015 6:18 pm

sbradshaw wrote:Doctrinally speaking, as a priest, despite his age, his stewardship is in the priests quorum, right? So, the bishop (priests quorum president) is directly responsible for him – not the elders quorum president or high priests group leader, neither of whom can receive revelation on his behalf. If I were the bishop I'd want him to be on my stewardship list. And the office of high priest should not have anything to do with age.

Regardless of stewardship prospective elders do not attend quorum meeting with priests so they should not be on the attendance roll for the priests.

According to one of the developers this is a known bug that will be fixed in an upcoming release.

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Re: Prospective elders appearing in Priest Quorum rolls and

Postby scgallafent » Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:36 am

An 88-year-old inactive member is a prospective elder. The bishop and quorum/group leaders should determine whether the member should be assigned to the elders quorum or high priests group. (See Handbook 2, 7.6.)

As eblood66 pointed out, this has already been addressed in an upcoming release.

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Re: Prospective elders appearing in Priest Quorum rolls and

Postby jayriggity » Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:51 am

Yes. I've gone into a few of the records and they are assigned to the proper organizations. E.g., the 88-year-old priest is assigned to the high priest group. But he's still showing up on the priest quorum roll and class list.

Glad to hear that this is being addressed somewhere. As it stands (in a ward with a ton of prospective elders) this glitch really messes up the young mens lists and makes them effectively unusuable for the YM president.

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Re: Prospective elders appearing in Priest Quorum rolls and

Postby scgallafent » Mon Mar 09, 2015 9:22 am

The bug affected both MLS and LCR. LCR can respond faster, so the bug has already been fixed in LCR. Use LCR to generate your rolls and you won't encounter the issue.

Even better: The young men president and his secretary have access to LCR and can generate reports on their own. Train them to generate their own rolls in LCR.


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