LDS.org annotation tools using mobile browser

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LDS.org annotation tools using mobile browser

Postby sbradshaw » Sat Mar 21, 2015 4:45 pm

I ran into a problem that has been mentioned before, which is that selecting some text at Scriptures.LDS.org doesn't bring up the annotation / highlighting tools. I'm on Safari on an iPhone.

The regular solution is to use the Gospel Library app instead of the browser, but in this case I'm trying to embed an LDS.org page in an iframe on another web page and I'd like people to be able to access the annotation tools on LDS.org within the iframe. I can't embed Gospel Library in an iframe.

Any suggestions? Do you think this is a limitation imposed by the LDS.org programmers, or a limitation with iOS? Does it work on other touch-screen devices, like Android (I don't have an Android device to test)?
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Re: LDS.org annotation tools using mobile browser

Postby aebrown » Sat Mar 21, 2015 5:39 pm

sbradshaw wrote:I ran into a problem that has been mentioned before, which is that selecting some text at Scriptures.LDS.org doesn't bring up the annotation / highlighting tools. I'm on Safari on an iPhone.

The regular solution is to use the Gospel Library app instead of the browser, but in this case I'm trying to embed an LDS.org page in an iframe on another web page and I'd like people to be able to access the annotation tools on LDS.org within the iframe. I can't embed Gospel Library in an iframe.

Any suggestions? Do you think this is a limitation imposed by the LDS.org programmers, or a limitation with iOS? Does it work on other touch-screen devices, like Android (I don't have an Android device to test)?

If the annotation tools don't appear on a section of content on LDS.org, then it really doesn't matter which browser or device you're using -- they just won't appear. And it doesn't matter whether you are embedding an LDS.org page in an iframe -- that won't make any difference.

It's not so much a "limitation imposed by the LDS.org programmers" but rather it's a matter of content which is not yet prepared with the proper styles and formatting to be compatible with the annotations scripts.

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Re: LDS.org annotation tools using mobile browser

Postby sbradshaw » Sat Mar 21, 2015 9:57 pm

I should have clarified; it's an area where annotations do work on a regular web browser. For example, 1 Nephi 1 in English – annotation tools show up on my computer's web browser, but not on my iOS device's web browser. I made sure I was logged in to LDS.org on both devices.
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Re: LDS.org annotation tools using mobile browser

Postby aebrown » Sun Mar 22, 2015 5:59 am

sbradshaw wrote:I should have clarified; it's an area where annotations do work on a regular web browser. For example, 1 Nephi 1 in English – annotation tools show up on my computer's web browser, but not on my iOS device's web browser. I made sure I was logged in to LDS.org on both devices.

Sorry I misunderstood at first.

In any case, I can confirm that on my Android devices, when I am signed in to LDS.org and viewing scripture content pages, the study bar does NOT appear, nor are annotations an option when I select text within the content pages. And I made sure that I was looking at the exact same content where those options work on my computer's browser.

I'm not a front-end developer, but I wouldn't be surprised if the way that text selection is detected is controlled differently by the mobile operating systems. I tried to examine the scripts involved, but there is a lot going on in a huge set of scripts, and it quickly exceeded my capabilities. My guess is that the Church's developers would have made this work on mobile browsers if they reasonably could have done so, but the mobile operating systems make it very difficult or impossible to do.


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