Missionary vs Ward Missionary

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Missionary vs Ward Missionary

Postby rexgj » Thu Aug 27, 2009 8:48 am

In our Income and Expense Report, we show a "Missionary" category, and a "Ward Missionary" category.

1. What is the difference, why do both appear?
2. The "Missionary" category shows a fairly large negative "Balance Forward" plus an $800 "Transfers" amount; but the Ward Missionary category shows a fairly large positive "Balance Forward", plus "Donations" and "Transfers" amounts.

Why are there two missionary categories? and what do they mean? and why do both have activity? Can they be combined? or the "Missionary" eliminated?

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Postby atticusewig » Thu Aug 27, 2009 9:01 am

The "Missionary" category is a legacy from an earlier version of
MLS. They discuss exactly how to clear balances remaining
in this account in another thread (help me out with the thread please
moderators).

Basically, once cleared, it should never be used again, unless
directed by Church HQ.

"Ward Missionary" holds money donated for support of missionaries
serving from your ward.

And to add even further confusion, some units use
"Budget: Ward Mission" to allocate budget funds for the
purchase of materials in membership-missionary activities
such as pass-a-long cards and Missionary videos.

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Postby birdld-p40 » Thu Aug 27, 2009 9:02 am

These two are essentially the same category. The Missionary category came about through the FIS to MLS transition. When MLS 3.1 is released later this year the Missionary category is "scheduled" to go away. The balance will automatically be combined with the Ward Missionary category. The Ward Missionary category and it's subcategories will remain.

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Postby rexgj » Thu Aug 27, 2009 9:13 am

birdld, thanks for that info, that is what I was looking for. I will just wait for the new MLS update. I find it interesting that we have had MLS for, what, 10 years now? and this old "missionary" category is still hanging around. Glad they're taking care of it.

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Postby crislapi » Thu Aug 27, 2009 9:23 am

If you'd like to clean it up sooner, you can move the money from Missionary to Ward Missionary yourself. You can then deactivate the Missionary category. See this post for instructions on how.

In my opinion, the easiest way is to go back through all donations/expenses to the Missionary category and change them to donations/expenses to/from Ward Missionary. It's clean, simple, and won't mess up anything. You can use a detailed Income and Expense report within the specific time period you are interested in to identify all transactions you need to change.

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Postby calebpusey » Thu Aug 27, 2009 9:25 am

crislapi wrote: You can then deactivate the Missionary category.


Unfortunately, since this category is created by the Church and not by the unit, it cannot be deactivated.
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Postby jbh001 » Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:36 am

rexgj wrote:I find it interesting that we have had MLS for, what, 10 years now? and this old "missionary" category is still hanging around.
Actually, MLS has only been out since February 2002 (MLS 1.0), and in wide-spread use since June 2003 (MLS 2.0.4). It is interesting to see how MLS has developed since then.

Curious though that the screen-shot for MLS Development Build shows both Ward Missionary and General Missionary gategories instead of just a Missionary category. But the screen-shot for MLS 2.8.2 (between January and June of 2008) shows just the Missionary cartgory. Then again it looks like the MLS 2.8.2 screen-shot is using the test database (of course).

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Postby carlsond-p40 » Thu Dec 10, 2009 7:51 am

I found this thread from some responses I received to a similar question. Our MLS has been update to the new 3.1 version and these two categories did not merge. I wish they did because it woul've partially fixed my problem.

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Postby rexgj » Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:35 am

I too was disappointed that the 3.1.1 upgrade did not merge the "missionary" and the "ward missionary" categories. I also tried just moving the money from one category to the other, but it would not allow that either. I may have do it by going back and changing the individual donations, but that seems like a big pain, since this issue for us, has existed for at least a couple of years.

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Postby aebrown » Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:14 am

rexgj wrote:I also tried just moving the money from one category to the other, but it would not allow that either.


You're right that simply moving money from Missionary to Ward Missionary does not work (MLS does not allow transfers from one major category to another).

But this post was mentioned a bit earlier in this thread. It does explain how the transfer can be done. Have you tried that technique yet?


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