Defaults to displaying following Sundays lessons rather than todays

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Defaults to displaying following Sundays lessons rather than todays

Postby epage » Sun May 20, 2012 9:06 am

Yesterday I went to the website and it defaulted to todays lessons. I went again today and it defaulted to next weeks lessons yet we don't have church for about 4 hours. I imagine most people will not think to notice the date and immediately look at what lessons will be taught today and incorrectly prepare off of that.

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Postby gregwanderson » Sun May 20, 2012 10:27 am

Agreed. The default shouldn't change to "next week" until (late) Sunday evening.

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Postby clintonkopotic » Sun May 27, 2012 8:40 pm

I agree as well. I saw this occurring today when I was trying to give an introduction to my Bishop about this new tool.

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Postby mevans » Mon May 28, 2012 7:39 am

Unless the tool takes into account time zones for switching the lesson number, consider that "(late) Sunday evening" in Utah might still be late afternoon elsewhere in the world. Also remember that the southern hemisphere goes the opposite direction when daylight savings time occurs, thereby making a greater difference between times in the hemispheres. Finding the right time to change lesson schedules for the next week should be thought out carefully.

I've had to manage worldwide systems and it's tricky because some people are already at work on Monday morning when it's only Sunday afternoon on the west coast in the USA.

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Postby lajackson » Mon May 28, 2012 9:12 am

mevans wrote:Unless the tool takes into account time zones for switching the lesson number, consider that "(late) Sunday evening" in Utah might still be late afternoon elsewhere in the world. Also remember that the southern hemisphere goes the opposite direction when daylight savings time occurs, thereby making a greater difference between times in the hemispheres. Finding the right time to change lesson schedules for the next week should be thought out carefully.

I've had to manage worldwide systems and it's tricky because some people are already at work on Monday morning when it's only Sunday afternoon on the west coast in the USA.


Perhaps, as a starting point while folks decide what to do about it, someone could tell us at what time they make the change now. Then, depending on what time Sunday morning I am asked at the last minute to teach a class, I will know whether I need to go to today or last week to find the correct lesson if the person asking me does not know it.

I suppose I could look at the date, though.

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Postby gregwanderson » Mon May 28, 2012 3:47 pm

Does the system update based on one time zone or does it acknowledge the time zone of the user's location (the way this message board, for example, acknowledges my time zone when referring to messages posted)? If it's some kind of global reset based on one time zone then it should be no sooner than midnight (or 00:00) GMT. Then half the world is generally experiencing Monday morning and the other half is having Sunday afternoon.

Then again, maybe those people in New Zealand aren't starting first thing Monday morning to study for the next Sunday's lesson, so advancing the system at midnight Utah time would be better anyway and the people in Hawaii will be better served. And people in New Zealand can adjust.

The thing is, if I look at the lesson on Monday and it's the same one I heard the day before then I'm more likely to recognize that and go to the next lesson. If I see next week's lesson on Sunday morning I'm more likely to overlook the fact that it's the wrong lesson because it will be new to me anyway. So, in general it's better to update the web site lesson too late than too early.


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