Second meetinghouse for a ward

Discussions about the Ward Directory and Map tool on churchofjesuschrist.org.
grahamf72
New Member
Posts: 18
Joined: Sat May 28, 2011 6:07 pm

Second meetinghouse for a ward

#1

Post by grahamf72 »

Because our ward is geographically large (over 150 miles across) we have a second meetinghouse used by a group who live in/near another town. The main ward meetinghouse shows in maps, but the second meetinghouse doesn't. Is it possible to get this second meetinghouse and their sacrament meeting listed? We have heard of numerous cases where people travelling through haven't known there was a meetinghouse with meetings, because they don't appear in maps.
russellhltn
Community Administrator
Posts: 34422
Joined: Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:53 pm
Location: U.S.

Re: Second meetinghouse for a ward

#2

Post by russellhltn »

I'm not sure how the data is organized, but I'd think you'd have to be organized as some kind of unit to get a listing. Such as a branch. Perhaps as a group.
Have you searched the Help Center? Try doing a Google search and adding "site:churchofjesuschrist.org/help" to the search criteria.

So we can better help you, please edit your Profile to include your general location.
mevans
Senior Member
Posts: 2049
Joined: Tue May 22, 2012 1:52 pm
Location: California, USA

Re: Second meetinghouse for a ward

#3

Post by mevans »

Talk with your FM group and/or have your ward or stake clerk call the member service center and see if they can do anything.

There's also a church employee who frequents forums and knows an amazing amount of stuff about things like this. Maybe we'll see him respond.
scgallafent
Church Employee
Church Employee
Posts: 3025
Joined: Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:55 pm
Location: Riverton, Utah

Re: Second meetinghouse for a ward

#4

Post by scgallafent »

That was quite a distraction. jonesrk and I have both been mulling it over and had a chance to talk about it and do a little digging.

There isn't a way to do this right now. We'll bring the issue up with the product manager who would be responsible for it, but I don't know whether that will translate into tasks on anyone's development schedule.
russellhltn
Community Administrator
Posts: 34422
Joined: Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:53 pm
Location: U.S.

Re: Second meetinghouse for a ward

#5

Post by russellhltn »

If you need a Handbook reference, HB 1: 9.1.4.
Have you searched the Help Center? Try doing a Google search and adding "site:churchofjesuschrist.org/help" to the search criteria.

So we can better help you, please edit your Profile to include your general location.
jonesrk
Church Employee
Church Employee
Posts: 2361
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:12 am
Location: South Jordan, UT, USA

Re: Second meetinghouse for a ward

#6

Post by jonesrk »

russellhltn wrote:If you need a Handbook reference, HB 1: 9.1.4.
Yeah, we looked at that. One of the challenges is the no unit number requirement that the Handbook imposes. Several parts are done today by unit number so that's where some of the work would be.
russellhltn
Community Administrator
Posts: 34422
Joined: Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:53 pm
Location: U.S.

Re: Second meetinghouse for a ward

#7

Post by russellhltn »

Yeah, I figured it would be a "fun" change to the data structure. I threw in the Handbook reference since it shows the need is supported by it. Otherwise, this might fall into the "they're doing WHAT???" category. (I'm sure you've got a few stories about that. :D)
Have you searched the Help Center? Try doing a Google search and adding "site:churchofjesuschrist.org/help" to the search criteria.

So we can better help you, please edit your Profile to include your general location.
grahamf72
New Member
Posts: 18
Joined: Sat May 28, 2011 6:07 pm

Re: Second meetinghouse for a ward

#8

Post by grahamf72 »

In this case, the group used to be a branch. When it was a branch, they of course appeared in maps with the meetinghouse as normal. But when the branch was dissolved, merged into the nearest ward, and the group formed under the ward, they disappeared off maps.
mevans
Senior Member
Posts: 2049
Joined: Tue May 22, 2012 1:52 pm
Location: California, USA

Re: Second meetinghouse for a ward

#9

Post by mevans »

grahamf72: You might also have your stake president bring this up with his priesthood leader. Even though the church employees are talking with the product manager, from what we've seen in conversations here, stake presidents may have a little more clout in requesting changes.

Church Employees: Looking at HB 1: 9.1.4, it specifies that the membership records are kept in the supervising ward or branch, but there's a Group Leader. It seems like you would also need to make a standard calling of a Group Leader who would have some level of permission to see church records, but less permission than bishopric or clerks. Yes, there are data structures to figure out, but it seems like you first need an analyst to figure out how groups are supposed to function.
scgallafent
Church Employee
Church Employee
Posts: 3025
Joined: Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:55 pm
Location: Riverton, Utah

Re: Second meetinghouse for a ward

#10

Post by scgallafent »

mevans wrote:Church Employees: Looking at HB 1: 9.1.4, it specifies that the membership records are kept in the supervising ward or branch, but there's a Group Leader. It seems like you would also need to make a standard calling of a Group Leader who would have some level of permission to see church records, but less permission than bishopric or clerks. Yes, there are data structures to figure out, but it seems like you first need an analyst to figure out how groups are supposed to function.
This thread is only talking about the possibility of getting group meeting locations to appear at maps.lds.org. We're not considering how this would work in LCR. There is no current plan to add this kind of functionality to LCR.
Post Reply

Return to “Ward Directory and Map”