High Council Access to Send Email

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High Council Access to Send Email

Postby barryhill » Tue Aug 22, 2017 8:27 pm

I have just served terms as a bishop and two years as a Stake Executive Secretary. I am now on the High Counsel assigned to Temple & Family History. I am tasked by my Stake President to work in close contact with the wards through visits, email, and conference calls. I am puzzled and very slowed down in my calling because I no longer have access to quickly email groups based on calling. The email app is no longer accessible to me. Are there any plans to let Stake Leaders other than Stake Presidency access the email app in Leader & Clerk Resources. Without it I have to go to each ward individually to pull in the High Priest Group Leaders, then the Temple & Family History Consultants. The only other option is to make email groups in my Gmail account but it would be difficult to keep such lists updated.

If this not in the works, do you have any idea why not

Thanks for your responses.

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Re: igh Council Access to Send Email

Postby eblood66 » Wed Aug 23, 2017 4:32 am

We haven't had any indication of whether any change is in the works or not. That's typical. The church generally doesn't announce changes to LCR beforehand or even whether they are considering them. Very occasionally a developer or product manager will give some hint on the forums but that doesn't happen much.

You can use the Feedback link at the bottom of LCR to put forward your case for why HC need access to the email app. You probably won't get more than an acknowledgement of your submission but it will be seen by the product manager.

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Re: igh Council Access to Send Email

Postby barryhill » Wed Aug 23, 2017 4:38 am

Thanks eblood66, I will do that.

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Re: igh Council Access to Send Email

Postby scgallafent » Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:35 am

barryhill wrote:Are there any plans to let Stake Leaders other than Stake Presidency access the email app in Leader & Clerk Resources.

There are not currently any plans to expand this beyond stake presidencies and bishoprics.

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Re: igh Council Access to Send Email

Postby sbradshaw » Wed Aug 23, 2017 9:00 am

Are you able to access the Ward Leaders report on Leader and Clerk Resources? If I remember correctly, that will allow you to filter and see family history leaders from each ward, all on one page.
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Re: High Council Access to Send Email

Postby barryhill » Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:15 pm

Concerning the email functionality in Leader & Clerk Resources:
There are not currently any plans to expand this beyond stake presidencies and bishoprics.


High Counselors routinely carry a wide range of functional assignments for the stake and are tasked by the Stake Presidency to maintain two-way communication. None of this information is private. The only question is whether someone has to cut and paste 30 email address every time they send an email or whether they are given permission to use the technology that is sitting there already developed.

This certainly makes me less productive in my calling and makes no sense to me, but maybe others have insight that I lack.

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Re: High Council Access to Send Email

Postby russellhltn » Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:21 pm

You need to direct that to the priesthood department, not the developers. This forum isn't a good way to do that. I'd suggest escalating the request though the stake president to his "upline", or to use the Feedback link in LCR.
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Re: High Council Access to Send Email

Postby barryhill » Wed Aug 23, 2017 2:07 pm

Thank You for that advice. I have submitted it through feedback on LCR and I had a conversation with my Stake President. I posted here in case I could get any further insight.

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Re: High Council Access to Send Email

Postby johnshaw » Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:36 am

Based on my past experience - The level of frustration experienced at the Ward Level with items like this (High Counselors who started with good intentions, but ended up duplicating entire processes of reporting and communicating...), I became a ward clerk and saw our leadership sending out tons of info responding to Stake Leaders, etc... It was extremely inefficient. - When I talked to a Stake Presidency Counselor/Stake Clerk they had no idea just how much information was going out FROM the stake that they had no idea existed, nor had they approved it on many occasions.

After becoming the Stake Clerk we worked to centralize all this communication. We setup a SINGLE WEEKLY note from the Stake to Ward Bishoprics, who were, in turn, to distribute it to all their leaders. We also created centralized reporting to Stake Leaders so they had the information they often 'wanted' to see and information that was 'helpful' in their callings. It followed the pattern of allowing the Stake President to authorize information distribution that isn't designed into the system.

I would advise, seriously, that you work withing the system created - utilize those that are allowed to send messages by design, That design has existed for more than a decade at this point, the likelihood of it going outside the Stake Presidency/Bishopric is VERY LOW - and in my observation is a very responsible design.
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Re: High Council Access to Send Email

Postby drepouille » Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:53 am

I remember when the monthly report became the quarterly report we now have. Many stake leaders insisted on continuing to receive monthly reports from the local units, even though the software had been changed to make monthly statistics impossible to gather. I think about 5 or 6 years ago, the North American Central Area implemented the North American Central Initiative (NACI), which was downward directed to my stake as the monthly Hastening the Work report. Most of the numbers requested were fairly simple, except of course for the number of part-member families, which nobody could ever figure out, due to the lack of marriage information for less-active members. After a couple years of the units reporting these numbers to the stake, and the stake reporting numbers to the area authority seventy, we just gave up. In the end, nobody knew why we were collecting and reporting that information, and measuring the number of contacts each month did not increase the number of contacts, nor improve activity levels.
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