Format of Tel. Numbers in CDOL

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Format of Tel. Numbers in CDOL

Postby Tiganita » Wed Dec 07, 2016 1:04 pm

Hello,

in CDOL there are addresses and telephone numbers from leaders.
The format of the addresses are quite good but the format of telephone numbers is more than weird for Germans.
This might be because of the leading 0 in front, but even without we do have a different formatting of area codes (3-6 numbers) and general telephone numbers (3-10).

Is it possible to either change this behavior that it's automatically correct for every country (which is quite hard) or to disable "auto formating in US style"?

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Re: Format of Tel. Numbers in CDOL

Postby jonesrk » Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:48 am

I would leave feedback in CDOL with some examples of how it should be formatted. The initial format comes from the clerk as they enter the callings in LCR, but they are reviewed by the CDOL support staff and 'standardized'.
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Re: Format of Tel. Numbers in CDOL

Postby johnshaw » Thu Dec 08, 2016 3:41 pm

They've left it open over the years because not everyone uses the 10-digit system the US does. I don't mind so much that the field is open, I mind there is no consistency....

xxx-xxx-xxxx
(xxx) xxx-xxx
xxx.xxx.xxx
xxx-xxx
xxx.xxxx
sometimes you see both 7 and 10 digits - It drive me crazy a new clerk is called and that clerk types in phone numbers with their own personal way of doing it.....

AHHHHH~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ standardize on something, somewhere....

10 Digit
xxx-xxx-xxxx (simplest, recognized by all computer systems as a phone number and is the least amount of digits to use.
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Re: Format of Tel. Numbers in CDOL

Postby russellhltn » Thu Dec 08, 2016 6:07 pm

johnshaw wrote:10 Digit
xxx-xxx-xxxx (simplest, recognized by all computer systems as a phone number and is the least amount of digits to use.

That works fine in the US, yes. But you've left out the country code. :mrgreen:
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Re: Format of Tel. Numbers in CDOL

Postby Tiganita » Fri Dec 09, 2016 3:35 am

Well, as I see it, a good way would be instead of using only one input field to use 2 or 3!

2
<automatic_country_code(dropdown)> <area_code> <telephone_number>
+49 _____ _____________ (having the people choose by themselves, if they want to format it with spaces or not)

3
<country_code> <area_code> <telephone_number>
___ ____ ___________

And the autoformat will only do spaces between these fields.

How does that sound?

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Re: Format of Tel. Numbers in CDOL

Postby russellhltn » Fri Dec 09, 2016 11:15 am

Tiganita wrote:And the autoformat will only do spaces between these fields.

How does that sound?


I don't know about spaces. The resulting format needs to be something that smartphones will recognize as a number so it can be dialed by just clicking on it.
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Re: Format of Tel. Numbers in CDOL

Postby sbradshaw » Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:52 pm

Do all countries have area codes?
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Re: Format of Tel. Numbers in CDOL

Postby Tiganita » Sat Dec 10, 2016 1:46 am

@russellhltn

It doesn't need to be spaces. Dashes would be fine too, just some separators.

And if countries do not have area codes or leave the 2nd field empty it could be formated as <country_code>-<telephone_number>.

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Re: Format of Tel. Numbers in CDOL

Postby lajackson » Sat Dec 10, 2016 3:46 am

sbradshaw wrote:Do all countries have area codes?

Probably most do by now, but some did not. Some countries have multiple formats, a two-digit area code with a five digit number for some areas, or a three-digit area code with a six- or seven-digit phone number for others.

It's a lot like the old days (really old) when we used to dial a one- or two-digit trunk code to get to the next town and then the four-digit phone number. And then some cities have five-digit phone numbers, some six, some seven, and some ten.

It is amazing to be able to connect at all, and it cries out for a free-form international phone number field.

Even for local calls in the U.S., with standardized area codes in some places you do not dial the code and in others you do for a local call.

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Re: Format of Tel. Numbers in CDOL

Postby russellhltn » Sat Dec 10, 2016 11:52 am

lajackson wrote:Even for local calls in the U.S., with standardized area codes in some places you do not dial the code and in others you do for a local call.

It may depend on your phone system, but I don't think there's any harm in using the area code when it's not needed.
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