Custom calling LCR access rights?

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Custom calling LCR access rights?

Postby jwoods2 » Tue Oct 06, 2015 6:32 pm

Our bishopric is extending a calling to an Asst. Executive Secretary. We've added this as a "custom calling" that falls under the bishopric in LDS.org. Will the person fulfilling this calling receive the same access rights in LCR that the bishopric has?

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Re: Custom calling LCR access rights?

Postby russellhltn » Tue Oct 06, 2015 6:35 pm

No. Custom callings have no rights whatsoever - no matter what you call them or where they are positioned.
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Re: Custom calling LCR access rights?

Postby russellhltn » Tue Oct 06, 2015 6:41 pm

You might consider extending a Assistant Clerk calling. That does carry some LCR rights and might be a better fit for the duties. Note that Both Assistant Clerks and Executive Secretaries have to be approved by the Stake. I think it would be wise to check with them before extending a custom position like Asst. Executive Secretary.
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Re: Custom calling LCR access rights?

Postby jwoods2 » Tue Oct 06, 2015 6:45 pm

Thanks. I'll run this by our bishopric.

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Re: Custom calling LCR access rights?

Postby scgallafent » Wed Oct 07, 2015 8:01 am

jwoods2 wrote:Thanks. I'll run this by our bishopric.

In the case of an assistant clerk, you should also run it by your stake presidency.

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Re: Custom calling LCR access rights?

Postby nathangg » Thu Oct 08, 2015 8:44 pm

We ran into this issue... nearly every ward in our stake has "Assistant Executive Secretaries" (and our stake presidency approves each of these calls).

For awhile, the wards would call the person as an assistant ward executive secretary and then set them up in LCR as an assistant clerk.

However, we've asked that the wards stop giving people callings in LCR that don't match what they were sustained as over the pulpit. For now, all the assistant ward executive secretaries in our stake do not have any access in LCR and they work with the executive secretaries and the clerks to get access to the reports they need (they ask for a printout of the action/interview list and someone else sends them a PDF).

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Re: Custom calling LCR access rights?

Postby russellhltn » Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:39 pm

Personally, I'd have a hard look at what everyone is doing. The bishop is given a fair amount of latitude in assignments, but perhaps they're not quite what's expected. Is the ES getting assignments that could be handled by someone else? It might be good to review Handbook 1: 13.4.2,3 & 4.
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Re: Custom calling LCR access rights?

Postby revs » Wed Nov 04, 2015 9:23 am

We have this same issue in my ward. Assigning clerk access gives more rights than the executive secretary has. I think the best solution would be to add the calling of a second executive secretary to MLS.

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Re: Custom calling LCR access rights?

Postby russellhltn » Wed Nov 04, 2015 10:23 am

revs wrote:I think the best solution would be to add the calling of a second executive secretary to MLS.

The system is unlikely to ever support going beyond the Handbook. Everything is set by the Brethren, not developers.

Feel free to lobby the Priesthood department for changes to the Handbook (but not though the forum - they don't visit here), but don't be surprised if it backfires on you and you're told to follow the Handbook.
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