What is the access level for viewing, recording, editing HT?

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What is the access level for viewing, recording, editing HT?

Postby pani » Tue Jun 30, 2015 12:19 pm

Hi everyone

I've looked around the forum but can't find a specific access list for who can view, record, and edit HT. Can anyone tell me who can view, record visits, and edit assignments on LCR and the new Home Teaching section?

As Bishop I can view, record and edit. I suppose that makes sense. But what about Elders Quorum presidencies, secretaries, and district supervisors? What can they do - is there a table somewhere that I can review?

The reason I ask is that we want to assign a specific individual to record the home teaching visits for the entire quorum or entire group and I want to know what calling he needs in order to do that. Edit capabilities aren't necessary.

Thank you,

Pani

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Re: What is the access level for viewing, recording, editing

Postby johnshaw » Tue Jun 30, 2015 12:24 pm

From Leader.lds.org online tool, select Help and then select Release Notes, this gives the information you're looking for, the direct link is here.

https://www.lds.org/help/support/clerk- ... s?lang=eng
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Re: What is the access level for viewing, recording, editing

Postby jdlessley » Tue Jun 30, 2015 1:25 pm

johnshaw wrote:From Leader.lds.org online tool, select Help and then select Release Notes, this gives the information you're looking for, the direct link is here.

https://www.lds.org/help/support/clerk- ... s?lang=eng

The information in the release notes is not very specific as to who can do what. It does say, for example, the elders quorum presidency can now manage home and visiting teaching information for their organization. It is unclear as to what callings constitute the presidency. The handbook says the president and his two counselors constitute the presidency. So what can the EQ secretary do? Nothing? Or maybe just checking off completed visits? Or can he do the full gamut and edit districts, edit companionships, and add/delete households for companionshiops as well as checking off completed visits? I don't know because our EQ presidency doesn't have a secretary.
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Re: What is the access level for viewing, recording, editing

Postby johnshaw » Tue Jun 30, 2015 1:46 pm

One other reference that I failed to mention is an email that goes out to Bishops before they are converted to LCS3.0 with the new HT/VT data, we don't get those emails, but I wonder if some reference is available there.

I'm sorry that you have a hard time understanding what a presidency entails, the church does on occasion seem to stress a great deal that presidencies do not contain the secretaries or clerks, but then in other times casually use the term presidency to include them. The use of the term presidency to include and not include clerks and secretaries is on my list of 1 gazillion inconsistent things I see when working with the church, but nobody has asked me for my list, so I go about my merry business, and include the secretaries and other HT/VT leadership callings in those that can access the data online because that is what was implemented.
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Re: What is the access level for viewing, recording, editing

Postby lajackson » Tue Jun 30, 2015 4:04 pm

pani wrote:. . . we want to assign a specific individual to record the home teaching visits for the entire quorum or entire group and I want to know what calling he needs in order to do that. Edit capabilities aren't necessary.

From all the posts I have read here at the Forum, it appears that the elders quorum president, counselors, and secretary are able to view and edit all home teaching assignments and information. It also appears that a district supervisor can view and edit his district.

It also appears that if a person is not able to edit the home teaching information, he is not able to view it either.

So my guess for the answer to your questions that he will at least need to be the quorum secretary. I do not know if there is a standard calling of assistant quorum secretary, nor do I know if he would be able to maintain HT information.

And no, I am not aware that there is an access table anywhere that explains any of this. I have gleaned this information from the posts that have appeared here in the Forum since LCR 3.0 went live.

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Postby russellhltn » Tue Jun 30, 2015 4:11 pm

lajackson wrote:I do not know if there is a standard calling of assistant quorum secretary,

Since it's mentioned in the handbook, I'd think there would be one. What rights it has, particularly since it can be staffed by someone who would not qualify as a secretary, I can't even guess.
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Re: What is the access level for viewing, recording, editing

Postby lajackson » Tue Jun 30, 2015 6:27 pm

russellhltn wrote:
lajackson wrote:I do not know if there is a standard calling of assistant quorum secretary,

Since it's mentioned in the handbook, I'd think there would be one. What rights it has, particularly since it can be staffed by someone who would not qualify as a secretary, I can't even guess.

Then I would try putting someone in the calling who did not have another calling and see if it works. That's about the only way to find out, in lieu of help in the form of an elusive access table.

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Re: What is the access level for viewing, recording, editing

Postby russellhltn » Tue Jun 30, 2015 6:38 pm

lajackson wrote:That's about the only way to find out, in lieu of help in the form of an elusive access table.

Perhaps one of our ever helpful employees will chime in.

I have asked about the updating of the access table, and I've been told it's being done. (I should note that there are two "Access tables". The one in Help Center that describes who may access, and the one in the app that describes what they can do.)
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Re: What is the access level for viewing, recording, editing

Postby scgallafent » Wed Jul 01, 2015 8:02 am

lajackson wrote:
pani wrote:. . . we want to assign a specific individual to record the home teaching visits for the entire quorum or entire group and I want to know what calling he needs in order to do that. Edit capabilities aren't necessary.

From all the posts I have read here at the Forum, it appears that the elders quorum president, counselors, and secretary are able to view and edit all home teaching assignments and information. It also appears that a district supervisor can view and edit his district.

So my guess for the answer to your questions that he will at least need to be the quorum secretary. I do not know if there is a standard calling of assistant quorum secretary, nor do I know if he would be able to maintain HT information.

He could be given a calling as a district supervisor and then assigned as the supervisor for all districts.

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Re: What is the access level for viewing, recording, editing

Postby scgallafent » Wed Jul 01, 2015 8:04 am

russellhltn wrote:
lajackson wrote:That's about the only way to find out, in lieu of help in the form of an elusive access table.

Perhaps one of our ever helpful employees will chime in.

I have asked about the updating of the access table, and I've been told it's being done. (I should note that there are two "Access tables". The one in Help Center that describes who may access, and the one in the app that describes what they can do.)

The access table is being updated. The LCR team is responsible for the one in the LCR application. I'm not sure when it will be released.


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