Stake boundary changes - reflected when?

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Stake boundary changes - reflected when?

Postby jglanfield » Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:22 am

Our stake received 4 additional units this past Sunday (a nearby district was dissolved). When are those kinds of changes typically reflected on the website directory, tools, etc?

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Postby rontilby » Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:42 am

Each ward/branch that changed to a different parent unit (stake/district) needs to change the setup in their MLS Software to reflect their new parent unit, and then do a "send membership records to stake". There may be other actions required on the Stake MLS system.

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Postby jonesrk » Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:56 am

The other part of it is that the changes have to get made in CDOL. I believe there is some paperwork that gets sent back in saying that the changes were made.
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Postby johnshaw » Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:07 am

I don't know who did the paperwork, but officially a boundary alignment document is sent to the 1st Presidency for approval. Once approved, a letter is sent to the Stake President officially noting the effective date. If the stake/district initiated the change and gave an effective date, then the boundary team in SLC starts changing once that date has past. It took about 1 week to create a new unit in the online tools (this was the old LUWS). It took 3-5 days for the boundaries to all change in the online map.

If the Church initiated this, then things are a bit different. We had a name change for a singles branch, that was pushed out through the church, and we had to report back to the boundary team when we did the sustaining in the unit, that was their trigger to make the changes officially in the online tools. It seems that a dissolve would be done by the church, and the Stake Clerk would want to talk to the boundary team and communicate when the changes were sustained by the membership of the Stake.

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Postby crislapi » Wed Nov 09, 2011 12:03 pm

Once the ward has been announced it takes about 1-2 weeks for the unit to be properly setup in all the church systems. Just a note - you will have to update the stake information manually in MLS. See this thread for more about that. This thread also discusses the timeline for new units.

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Postby lajackson » Wed Nov 09, 2011 12:56 pm

crislapi wrote:Once the ward has been announced it takes about 1-2 weeks for the unit to be properly setup in all the church systems.


In this case, there was probably a district or stake conference involved. The administrative changes will begin when the presiding authority at that conference returns the paperwork to Church headquarters informing them that the change has actually taken place.

Or, if there was not a conference, the same paperwork still needs to get from either the stake or mission president to inform headquarters to actively move forward with the publically visible administrative part of the change.

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Postby jglanfield » Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:55 pm

Yes, there was a conference involved in this case. So I guess we just wait for the Area Seventy to submit the paperwork.

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Postby johnshaw » Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:24 pm

Talk to your stake clerk and have him call the boundary team he can report back when the changes were sustained

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Postby lajackson » Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:45 am

jglanfield wrote:Yes, there was a conference involved in this case. So I guess we just wait for the Area Seventy to submit the paperwork.


Yes, the Area Seventy will be the one whose paperwork will trigger the change. And judging from your location, he hopefully mailed everything to Church headquarters last Monday or Tuesday. You may start seeing indications of the change this week.


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