Personal Calendars?

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Personal Calendars?

Postby zaneclark » Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:51 am

Members can create their own personal calendars in the new calendar site, and I am trying to figure out how this would be useful. Would it be any better than any other digital calendar such as a google calendar or iCal? Has anyone created their personal calendar?

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Postby aebrown » Wed Apr 13, 2011 11:39 am

zaneclark wrote:Members can create their own personal calendars in the new calendar site, and I am trying to figure out how this would be useful. Would it be any better than any other digital calendar such as a google calendar or iCal? Has anyone created their personal calendar?


Are you sure? I've never seen any such feature.

There is an option called "Create Calendar", but that does not create a personal calendar. That only submits a request for a new calendar, which then has to be approved by a calendar approver. I imagine that feature exists so that a leader could request a new calendar. For example, there might be a "Young Men" calendar, but a Young Men president wants to add a "Deacons" "Teachers" and "Priests" calendar, so he uses the Create Calendar feature to submit a request for those three calendars. But once such calendars are approved, they are just like any ward or stake calendar; they are not personal calendars.

Personally, I don't see how this feature is useful enough to justify the time that was spent creating it and the confusion it causes. It's relatively rare to create a new calendar, so it would have been just fine to allow only approvers to create calendars. Anyone who needs a new calendar can just communicate separately with an approver to make that request.

But if there is a personal calendar feature different from what I have described, please supply some details as to how one is created.
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Postby jdlessley » Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:50 pm

aebrown wrote:
zaneclark wrote:Members can create their own personal calendars in the new calendar site, and I am trying to figure out how this would be useful. Would it be any better than any other digital calendar such as a google calendar or iCal? Has anyone created their personal calendar?

Are you sure? I've never seen any such feature.

There is an option called "Create Calendar", but that does not create a personal calendar. That only submits a request for a new calendar, which then has to be approved by a calendar approver. I imagine that feature exists so that a leader could request a new calendar. For example, there might be a "Young Men" calendar, but a Young Men president wants to add a "Deacons" "Teachers" and "Priests" calendar, so he uses the Create Calendar feature to submit a request for those three calendars. But once such calendars are approved, they are just like any ward or stake calendar; they are not personal calendars.
I think zaneclark is referring to the private calendar feature. With a private calendar one can be the sole editor and viewer and thus making it their own personal calendar.

aebrown wrote:But if there is a personal calendar feature different from what I have described, please supply some details as to how one is created.

Select the "Make This Calendar Private" checkbox in the Viewers option and do not add any other editors or viewers.
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Postby aebrown » Wed Apr 13, 2011 1:33 pm

jdlessley wrote:I think zaneclark is referring to the private calendar feature.


I'm very familiar with private calendars, but his initial statement "Members can create their own personal calendars" certainly doesn't sound like it could be referring to private calendars, since members can't create them. Only calendar approvers can create private calendars, and that's a very limited set of people. I guess we'll have to hear from Zane what he was referring to.
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Postby zaneclark » Wed Apr 13, 2011 2:17 pm

aebrown wrote:I'm very familiar with private calendars, but his initial statement "Members can create their own personal calendars" certainly doesn't sound like it could be referring to private calendars, since members can't create them. Only calendar approvers can create private calendars, and that's a very limited set of people. I guess we'll have to hear from Zane what he was referring to.

Can i plead senility? I had read about the private calendars, (obviously not carefully,) and somehow translated this to "personal." With all of your explanations, and after a CAREFUL reading in the help pages, I am backing out of this....

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Postby jdlessley » Wed Apr 13, 2011 2:19 pm

aebrown wrote:I'm very familiar with private calendars, but his initial statement "Members can create their own personal calendars" certainly doesn't sound like it could be referring to private calendars, since members can't create them. Only calendar approvers can create private calendars, and that's a very limited set of people. I guess we'll have to hear from Zane what he was referring to.
Members can create private calendars. My wife is not an approver and can create a private calendar.
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Postby jonesrk » Wed Apr 13, 2011 2:26 pm

jdlessley wrote:Members can create private calendars. My wife is not an approver and can create a private calendar.

But it still have to be approved before it is available to her (I just tested this with my wife's account). It creates the calendar but it is sitting in a pending state. I looked in my account and it was there waiting for me (ward clerk) to approve.
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Postby jdlessley » Wed Apr 13, 2011 2:32 pm

JonesRK wrote:But it still have to be approved before it is available to her (I just tested this with my wife's account). It creates the calendar but it is sitting in a pending state. I looked in my account and it was there waiting for me (ward clerk) to approve.
That is correct. aebrown's assertion is that only approvers can create private calendars.
aebrown wrote:Only calendar approvers can create private calendars, and that's a very limited set of people.
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Postby russellhltn » Wed Apr 13, 2011 2:34 pm

How private are "private" calendars?
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Postby aebrown » Wed Apr 13, 2011 2:41 pm

jdlessley wrote:That is correct. aebrown's assertion is that only approvers can create private calendars.


Well, I guess I wasn't careful with my language, but members can't create working private calendars. Approval is still required.

In any case, now that Zane has clarified that he was confused about private vs. personal calendars, this thread really is now addressing only a rather arcane point. Although it may be technically possible for members to submit requests for personal private calendars, I really doubt that very many units will be allowing a widespread practice of members creating personal private calendars. We certainly won't be doing that in our stake.
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