Why internet filtering can be a bad idea - Page 4

Dicehyden · November 4th, 2009, 06:00 AM

as my personal opinion it's not a bad idea at all. Specially for kids who are new to internet world. I would say every parent should set up filters to block un necessary or in appropriate websites to keep their children safe.

The Earl · November 6th, 2009, 10:17 AM

I love the idea of a public proxy log. A solid proxy will even show or block anonymizing services like TOR. You might not see what they are looking at, but you will be able to see that they are hiding something. A quick check of the browser cache should help confirm what is going on (empty or not!). If they are hiding something, that should be enough to have a chat w/ them.

You really don't care what your kids are looking at, you care about the choices they are making. Let them make the choices, and make them accountable for them.

A public proxy log also makes you accountable as well. It is a solution that will work for adults and kids. It shows your kids you expect the same of yourself.

I don't think the log needs to be public, but at least reviewable by more than one person. It also needs to be difficult to modify.

The Earl

The Earl · November 6th, 2009, 10:27 AM

My problem with the proxy solution is the difficulty.

Untangle is nice, but WAY to technical for most. Most of my family has needed my help to set up their plug-and-play wireless routers.

I think we need a packaged solution. Most families I know already use a consumer router with wireless for their internet. It would be really cool to have an OpenWRT spinoff that came pre-configured with a proxy, filter, and log page. All the pieces exist in the OpenWRT project, we would just need to package it.

A moderately technical person could install a standard router, and flash it with our custom firmware.

Thanks
The Earl

November 6th, 2009, 10:17 AM	#32
The Earl Community Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 270	Filter / Proxy I love the idea of a public proxy log. A solid proxy will even show or block anonymizing services like TOR. You might not see what they are looking at, but you will be able to see that they are hiding something. A quick check of the browser cache should help confirm what is going on (empty or not!). If they are hiding something, that should be enough to have a chat w/ them. You really don't care what your kids are looking at, you care about the choices they are making. Let them make the choices, and make them accountable for them. A public proxy log also makes you accountable as well. It is a solution that will work for adults and kids. It shows your kids you expect the same of yourself. I don't think the log needs to be public, but at least reviewable by more than one person. It also needs to be difficult to modify. The Earl

November 6th, 2009, 10:27 AM	#33
The Earl Community Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 270	Proxy Appliance My problem with the proxy solution is the difficulty. Untangle is nice, but WAY to technical for most. Most of my family has needed my help to set up their plug-and-play wireless routers. I think we need a packaged solution. Most families I know already use a consumer router with wireless for their internet. It would be really cool to have an OpenWRT spinoff that came pre-configured with a proxy, filter, and log page. All the pieces exist in the OpenWRT project, we would just need to package it. A moderately technical person could install a standard router, and flash it with our custom firmware. Thanks The Earl

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November 4th, 2009, 06:00 AM	#31
Dicehyden New Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: brooklyn Posts: 4	as my personal opinion it's not a bad idea at all. Specially for kids who are new to internet world. I would say every parent should set up filters to block un necessary or in appropriate websites to keep their children safe.